(urth) Appearances of Inire

[John Watkins]

2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>

> John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 18:08):
>
>>
>>
>> But the point I brought up is independent of whether the evil power was
>> created by God or bred by whoever.
>>
>>
Is it?  I dunno.  I think the existence of, say, hurricanes, or the bubonic
plague, is potentially more troubling from a theodicy standpoint than the
possibility that the free will of hman beings might create monstrous
demigods as the Hierogrammates under Scenario 2 are.  Anyway I rather doubt
that the author would agree that the existence of such beings is
inconsistent with the existence of a traditionally-understood God.

Regardless, we are getting afield of the question.



>      > I honestly think top-posting usually isn't helpful - maybe it's
>> early
>>     > afternoon drowsiness but I can't grasp your point.
>>     >
>>     > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 16:31):
>>     >> Tdazkiel's people are themselves artificial...awfully difficult
>>    to blame
>>     >> God for their control over the universe.
>>     >>
>>     >> 2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>
>>     >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>>
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>>     >>
>>     >>     Option 2 I think is untenable.
>>     >>
>>     >>     - If God is good, then it makes no sense to create a universe
>> in
>>     >> which:
>>     >>       + God's creatures are toys in an evil power's hands
>>     >>       + God's creatures believe that the evil power is not evil
>>    at all
>>     >>     and is doing God's work
>>     >>       + those who oppose the evil power are not, generally
>> speaking,
>>     >>     better people than the others, and in fact seem to be worse.
>>     >>
>>     >>     - If God isn't good then by what standard can we call such an
>>     >>     unfathomable being as Tzadkiel evil?
>>     >>
>>     >>     Keeping option 3 doesn't mean that the acts of Tzadkiel need no
>>     >>     atoning for, it just means they're done with the best of
>>    intentions
>>     >>     and knowledge. We have a saying here, 'Of [people with] good
>>     >>     intentions is Hell full'.
>>     >>
>>     >>     Antonio
>>     >>
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