(urth) Appearances of Inire

António Pedro Marques entonio at gmail.com
Thu Jul 1 10:12:01 PDT 2010


John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 18:08):
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM, <brunians at brunians.org
> <mailto:brunians at brunians.org>> wrote:
>
>     He appears to believe that Tzadkiel is a hierodule.
>
>     .
>
> No.  I believe that the Hierogrammates were artificially bred by the
> Hieros.

But the point I brought up is independent of whether the evil power was 
created by God or bred by whoever.

>      > I honestly think top-posting usually isn't helpful - maybe it's early
>      > afternoon drowsiness but I can't grasp your point.
>      >
>      > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 16:31):
>      >> Tdazkiel's people are themselves artificial...awfully difficult
>     to blame
>      >> God for their control over the universe.
>      >>
>      >> 2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
>     <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>
>      >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>>
>      >>
>      >>     Option 2 I think is untenable.
>      >>
>      >>     - If God is good, then it makes no sense to create a universe in
>      >> which:
>      >>       + God's creatures are toys in an evil power's hands
>      >>       + God's creatures believe that the evil power is not evil
>     at all
>      >>     and is doing God's work
>      >>       + those who oppose the evil power are not, generally speaking,
>      >>     better people than the others, and in fact seem to be worse.
>      >>
>      >>     - If God isn't good then by what standard can we call such an
>      >>     unfathomable being as Tzadkiel evil?
>      >>
>      >>     Keeping option 3 doesn't mean that the acts of Tzadkiel need no
>      >>     atoning for, it just means they're done with the best of
>     intentions
>      >>     and knowledge. We have a saying here, 'Of [people with] good
>      >>     intentions is Hell full'.
>      >>
>      >>     Antonio
>      >>
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