(urth) barrington interview

[Lee]

> You are saying humans are not capable of art or history. I truly do not
>understand that statement


>Jeffrey Wilson:  I wrote that, not Rick. On the contrary, I am saying that art transcends 
>the flaws of history, because the cave paintings implicitly record 
>things about people who did not yet have the ability to record explicit, 
>written history.


Apologies for the misidentification.

Saying that art can go beyond history is one thing. But what I quoted was the

statement:


>Humans and pre-humans have made numerous
>constructions that transcend the limitations of the homind condition.


Quite a different statement to say that art is a superhuman ability. 


Dan'l made the suggestion that some human endeavors (including prayer?)

can put humans in touch with the superhuman/infinite, as an article of his

faith. I have no problem with that belief, stated that way.


But I can't see how statements about art or math transcending the human

condition make sense, without invoking belief in God.


>I recall now that you apparently use some crap misconfigured e-mail 
>program that doesn't properly quote and attribute forcing you to do it 
>by flawed hand and flawed memory, and I think your poor technology 
>experience in general may be coloring your attitudes about all human 
>products.


Very funny.


But no; as computers and the internet are entirely human creations, I do

not consider them to endow us with superhuman abilities. No more than 

a stone hand axe does.