(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21

Craig Brewer cnbrewer at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 18 06:17:15 PST 2013 

Agreed. This isn't the time to overwhelm someone with an uninvited deluge of correspondence and stuff. But a simple collective card from a group of concerned people seems appropriate.

On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> wrote:

> I am not sure, but may be in this case it would be appropriate to sign some sort of card collectively?
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> Sergei Soloviev
> 
> Eric Bourland wrote:
>> I'm usually quiet on this list, but appreciate its discussions every day. I find Ms. Rosemary's passing quite sad. I have never met Mr. or Mrs. Wolfe, though for a while I lived approximately near them in Chicago.
>> 
>> I would like to send flowers, or a brief simple card, to Mr. Wolfe's family. This gentleman's stories have been in my life since I was a kid. I could send them care of the his publisher, Tor Books, and that would be respectful of the family's privacy. Are other people on this list doing anything similar?
>> 
>> Eric
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>> Blue of cheek ... pale. That is how I read it. Since Severian is unusually pale, I would suppose she would be commenting on that paleness. In certain wan light the cheek might look blue.
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Editor in China requesting help with translation of
>> certain sentences in BotNS (Antonin Scriabin)
>> 2. Re: Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P. (aaron)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:54:56 -0500
>> From: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>
>> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> Subject: Re: (urth) Editor in China requesting help with translation
>> of certain sentences in BotNS
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>> Well, "bluer of cheek" is a variation on the term "blue-blood", of course a
>> reference to nobility ... you could see the surface veins of those who,
>> because of their stature in society, had very pale skin (they didn't have
>> to work outside at physical labor, thus acquiring a tan).
>> 
>> In Solitaire, a black (or red) Jack is placed "on top" of a Queen of the
>> opposite color (and a different suit, necessarily) ... so perhaps the
>> "elector" is the Jack and the "patroness" is the Queen?
>> 
>> "Theocenter" might simply mean "godhead", or a reference to the oneness and
>> simplicity thereof, as the root of all existence, in a Judeo-Christian
>> sense. But don't quote me.
>> 
>> Not sure about the other one, I'll have to page through my copy at home to
>> get the full context.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <
>> danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Got this alert from the Goodreads Gene Wolfe group:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1614149-help-some-details-in-the-shadow?utm_medium=email&utm_source=comment_instant#comment_88705259
>> >
>> > "I am a SF editor & Wolfe fan in China, and we are trying to publish The
>> > Book of New Sun in Chinese. I've done a lot of work in reading and
>> > translation , yet there are still some sentences I can't understand. Hope I
>> > can get some help here.
>> >
>> > THE HOUSE AZURE
>> > While I was undressing I said, ?Nevertheless, we all seek to discover what
>> > is real. Why is it? Perhaps we are drawn to the theocenter. That?s what the
>> > hierophants say,that only that is true.?
>> >
>> > what does "theocenter" mean? I can't find this word in dictionary nor can
>> > I google it. and what does the whole sentence mean?
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > THE LAST YEAR
>> > I carried them to her, and she said my beard had shot up like them, and I
>> > should be bluer of cheek than the run of common men, and the next day
>> > begged my pardon for it, saying I was that already.
>> >
>> > what does "bluer of cheek"and " run of common men" mean here?
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> > DORCAS
>> > ?Your pardon, sieur,? he said. ?But I can?t come no nearer. Wet she may
>> > be, but she gets too dry for me, or you couldn?t walk upon it.
>> >
>> > Does "she" refer to the boat or Cas' body? what does the sentence mean?
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------
>> > THE PLAY
>> > confirm the outcome of a love affair by putting the elector of one suit
>> > atop the patroness of another
>> >
>> > If the word suit refer to the some card game, then what does "elector"and
>> > "patroness"mean?"
>> >
>> > --
>> > Daniel Otto Jack Petersen
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>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:16:38 -0500
>> From: aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: (urth) Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P.
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>> Sorry to hear this. I know how loss feels as I lost my brother and
>> grandmother within a week of one another at the end of November. What a
>> year.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>> > It is sad news, but it has been coming a long time. May she be at peace
>> > and Mr Wolfe also.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Antonin Scriabin <
>> > kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's terrible :-(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> http://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-farewell-to-rosemary.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh, no.
>> >>>
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