(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21

Tue Dec 17 06:59:35 PST 2013

I am not sure, but may be in this case it would be appropriate to sign 
some sort of card collectively?

Sergei Soloviev

Eric Bourland wrote:
> I'm usually quiet on this list, but appreciate its discussions every 
> day. I find Ms. Rosemary's passing quite sad. I have never met Mr. or 
> Mrs. Wolfe, though for a while I lived approximately near them in Chicago.
>
> I would like to send flowers, or a brief simple card, to Mr. Wolfe's 
> family. This gentleman's stories have been in my life since I was a 
> kid. I could send them care of the his publisher, Tor Books, and that 
> would be respectful of the family's privacy. Are other people on this 
> list doing anything similar?
>
> Eric
>
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> Blue of cheek ... pale. That is how I read it. Since Severian is 
> unusually pale, I would suppose she would be commenting on that 
> paleness. In certain wan light the cheek might look blue.
>
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> 1. Re: Editor in China requesting help with translation of
> certain sentences in BotNS (Antonin Scriabin)
> 2. Re: Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P. (aaron)
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> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:54:56 -0500
> From: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: (urth) Editor in China requesting help with translation
> of certain sentences in BotNS
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> Well, "bluer of cheek" is a variation on the term "blue-blood", of 
> course a
> reference to nobility ... you could see the surface veins of those who,
> because of their stature in society, had very pale skin (they didn't have
> to work outside at physical labor, thus acquiring a tan).
>
> In Solitaire, a black (or red) Jack is placed "on top" of a Queen of the
> opposite color (and a different suit, necessarily) ... so perhaps the
> "elector" is the Jack and the "patroness" is the Queen?
>
> "Theocenter" might simply mean "godhead", or a reference to the 
> oneness and
> simplicity thereof, as the root of all existence, in a Judeo-Christian
> sense. But don't quote me.
>
> Not sure about the other one, I'll have to page through my copy at home to
> get the full context.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <
> danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Got this alert from the Goodreads Gene Wolfe group:
> >
> >
> > https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1614149-help-some-details-in-the-shadow?utm_medium=email&utm_source=comment_instant#comment_88705259
> >
> > "I am a SF editor & Wolfe fan in China, and we are trying to publish The
> > Book of New Sun in Chinese. I've done a lot of work in reading and
> > translation , yet there are still some sentences I can't understand. 
> Hope I
> > can get some help here.
> >
> > THE HOUSE AZURE
> > While I was undressing I said, ?Nevertheless, we all seek to discover 
> what
> > is real. Why is it? Perhaps we are drawn to the theocenter. That?s 
> what the
> > hierophants say,that only that is true.?
> >
> > what does "theocenter" mean? I can't find this word in dictionary nor can
> > I google it. and what does the whole sentence mean?
> > --------------------------------------------
> > THE LAST YEAR
> > I carried them to her, and she said my beard had shot up like them, and I
> > should be bluer of cheek than the run of common men, and the next day
> > begged my pardon for it, saying I was that already.
> >
> > what does "bluer of cheek"and " run of common men" mean here?
> > -----------------------------------------
> > DORCAS
> > ?Your pardon, sieur,? he said. ?But I can?t come no nearer. Wet she may
> > be, but she gets too dry for me, or you couldn?t walk upon it.
> >
> > Does "she" refer to the boat or Cas' body? what does the sentence mean?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > THE PLAY
> > confirm the outcome of a love affair by putting the elector of one suit
> > atop the patroness of another
> >
> > If the word suit refer to the some card game, then what does "elector"and
> > "patroness"mean?"
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Otto Jack Petersen
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> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:16:38 -0500
> From: aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: (urth) Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P.
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> Sorry to hear this. I know how loss feels as I lost my brother and
> grandmother within a week of one another at the end of November. What a
> year.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes 
> <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > It is sad news, but it has been coming a long time. May she be at peace
> > and Mr Wolfe also.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Antonin Scriabin <
> > kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That's terrible :-(
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Fred Kiesche 
> <godelescherbach at gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-farewell-to-rosemary.html
> >>>
> >>> Oh, no.
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> Liberal Conservative Militarist. Does not fit into a neat box or 
> category.
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> >>> scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being 
> presented with
> >>> Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at 
> Bernal
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