(urth) Thea's Identity

DAVID STOCKHOFF dstockhoff at verizon.net
Thu Apr 11 07:42:08 PDT 2013

Almost as an aside, I wonder if male cloning works differently from female cloning here. For one thing, can a man have a daughter clone? I don't see why not, given sufficient advancement, but let's assume not on Urth, if only because it gives Wolfe a way to signal clone identity. I don't see any examples of such.

For another, why is it that we have several clear female clones but the only clear male clones are House Absolute troopers? Are male clones forbidden? Again I ask, was this Catherine's crime? (and if so, why not Odilo's too? Did he not know? Did she take his cells?)

This reminds me of various tales in which a king kills all the male babies to stave off a prophecy. At very least, male clones can be used to raise an army, while female ones (aside from anpiels) might be less of a threat.

Putting cloning at the center of BNS changes it.

> From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>
>To: "urth at urth.net" <urth at urth.net> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:25 AM
>Subject: (urth) Thea's Identity
>>Antonio Pedro Marques: Is this not a very old idea in this list (that khaibits have 
>>shortened versions of their originals' names), 
>Hmmm, "very old". I've been on the list since the early 2000's I think, so what are you
>trying to say, Antonio? (j/k)
>And in seriousness, the idea came to me a while back in reading Borski's Solar Labyrinth 
>in which he devotes a large section to comparing similarities of BotNS names without much 
>effort to find meaning or significance to the similarity (as for Severian and Valeria).
>The Thecla-Thea and Pelagia-Pega pairings jumped out at me because I'd always been 
>puzzled by the "half-sister" relationship with which Wolfe hits us on the head too many
>times without explanation and the mysterious conversations and veiled glances we see on
>the raft. The idea of hidden clone relationships answers those mysteries for me.
>Of course for those who don't see mysteries in those two scenarios there would be little
>appeal for the clone naming convention theory. But since I do, I feel compelled to trot 
>out the theory every few years when some excuse presents itself. (I'm sure I'll find an
>excuse to trot out my Father Inire or Fish Mouth theories within a few years too).                           
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