(urth) Fish and Caves

[António Pedro Marques]

Gerry Quinn wrote (23-12-2010 18:42):
>
> From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
>>
>>>>> António Pedro Marques-
>>>>> I just don't see any compelling evidence that dream travel is across
>>>>> time. If it were, shouldn't the trip with Rigoglio be to the time he
>>>>> left Urth?
>>>>
>>>> James Wynn-
>>>> Really? So Silk seeing an astral flying Oreb in his room while the
>>>> current Oreb is lame downstairs doesn't give you pause?
>>>
>>>
>>> António Pedro Marques-
>>> It would if it were established that Silk saw an astral flying Oreb
>>> in his room.
>>
>> Okay. What could possibly establish that for you? Oreb adamantly
>> affirms that it wasn't him. His twin? His father?
>
> Pike's ghost? Mucor? A lying night chough who managed to jump and
> flutter a short distance?
>
> Note that Scylla was not possessing Oreb at this time. Gods had no
> reason to escape into animals until Pas returned. Why would an ordinary
> bird be capable of astral travel?
>
> And finally - even if Oreb did astrally travel a few yards, what is that
> supposed to tell us about time travel? Silk did not see two birds
> simultaneously, and even if he had, it would be explainable without time
> travel so long as one of them was asleep.

I think he's saying Patera Pike and the fluttering on the 2nd floor were the 
Rajan and Oreb from 20-odd years later.