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[Bob Miller]

One just
> > have to look at accounts of the Punic Wars to see that even moving a few
> > boats between Sicily and North Africa was a gamble.

And the gamblers sometimes won.  I can't help but wonder at the gutsiness of St. Brendan the Voyager who used much more fragile craft for his westerly trips.  I do not support the contact theory, but I'm not averse to it either.  There definitely is a countercurrent in state of the art.
> 
> For the Romans it was, yes. Was it for the Carthaginians? For the Chinese?
> For the Japanese? For the Polynesians?
> 
> >                                            Almost 50% of the time
> > the fleet would either sank completely or just a few would survive.
> > Compare that with vast, constant expeditions before Christ to the americas
> > and I find it quite unprobable.
> 
> Compare Olmec jade and Shang jade:
> 
> http://www.chinese.tcu.edu/www_chinese3_tcu_edu.htm
> 
> Compare ancient Japanese and South American pottery:
> 
> http://books.google.com/books?id=Yrhp8H0_l6MC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=jomon+and+valdivia&source=web&ots=NI1C2N-wiv&sig=8TrGmzEexjF7xjRWgrNF9b-xAYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result
> 
> There's really a lot more.
> 
> 
> >                                 But I would have to delve deeply into the
> > evidence.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > The nicotine found in mumyes is certainly very compeling evidence of
> > contact. I don't know what the official position regarding that is right
> > now, if any.
> 
> It doesn't matter. The official position is that human beings were hunters
> and gatherers until about ten thousand years ago. This is obviously wrong.
> 
> 
> >               The roman sculptures in mexico I never heard of. Sounds
> > great. Any links?
> 
> Can't find one offhand.
> 
> 
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> 
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