(urth) An Old mystery ...
John Watkins
john.watkins04 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 13:14:52 PST 2008
On 12/4/08, Jordon Flato <jordonflato at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> But the direction the world is
> headed in New Sun is not good. So, a return to paradise is needed. And
> look what becomes of it. A peaceful society that breeds the Green Man, a
> race completely at harmony with it's environment. Isn't that the 'good
> thing' in the ultimate sense that you are looking for? Or is the world of
> Master Ash, where mankind has scattered again to the stars (those that could
> be evacuated) and the world left to die in ice. That is the alternative to
> the Flood. We see that future, and it is horrific.
>
> The future of the Green Man IS the textual evidence of the goodness of the
> flood, in my opinion.
There's a bit at the end of Urth that strongly implies that the future
the Hierogrammates are aiming for is not the Green Man's future. I
don't think the Green Man is a midpoint between Severian's people and
reengineered Hieros.
> >
> >
> > I'll just reply to Son of Witz here as well: if the Sun was dying for
> > natural causes, or because of the actions of Typhon, and if there was
> > no feasible way to evacuate Urth to other settled planets, and the
> > destruction of Urth was the only way to cause this "long term
> > resurrection," then I would agree that it is a "good thing" in the
> > ultimate sense, and the casualties are unfortunately necessary.
> >
> > But we know, textually, that the Hierogrammates are behind the dying
> > Sun, that there are other settled planets, and that evacuation was
> > feasible. The difference between an airlift and the flooding, other
> > than the millions (billions?) of lives saved, is that it wouldn't
> > advance the Hierogrammates' eugenic agenda.
> >
> >
> >
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