(urth) [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes danldo at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 12:05:18 PST 2020

I often think it's comical--Fal, lal, la!
How Nature always does contrive--Fal, lal, la!
  That every boy and every gal
  That's born into the world alive
    Is either a little Liberal
    Or else a little Conservative!

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

*Maka ki ecela tehani yanke lo!*
*--*Tȟašúŋke Witkó

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:48 AM Charles Gillingham <
charlesgillingham at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well said Mr. Wynn.
> Discussions like this, like any discussion where you know what someone
> will say before they say it, get boring fast. More and more, I'm sure this
> distinction is genetic, everyone is born with either a L or a P gene. So
> debate boils down to something like "well I think brown hair is best
> because I have brown hair, " and so on.
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 11:25 AM James Wynn <james.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Calling proponents of a position "politically correct" is itself a form
>> of ad hominem. But if it is going to be *defended* as a category, then...
>> In my experience, unironic "political correctness" gained a very bad
>> reputation quite early -- by the late 80s -- because the people advocating
>> for it demonstrated a very low bar for the definition of rudeness when
>> encountering ideas they disagreed with and a very permissive bar for the
>> punishment that should be meted out for perceived rudeness. They also
>> demonstrated marked blindness for rudeness perpetuated in the name of
>> "political correctness" (sometimes euphemized "the common good"). Nothing
>> about the culture of PC has changed since then, but what has changed is an
>> increased ability of some of its advocates to sequester themselves from the
>> critiques of it and the various subcultures it spawned (callout culture,
>> cancel culture, social credit scores).
>> Rather than engaging inaccurate statements with ad hominem (see above), I
>> think it is more effective to engage them with accurate speech untainted by
>> personal emotion.
>> ~ James
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 6:27 AM Norwood, Frederick Hudson <
>> NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> wrote:
>>> In my experience, people who complain about having to be “politically
>>> correct” are people who want to say rude things and are really complaining
>>> about not being allowed to be rude.
>>> Rick
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