(urth) [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women

Charles Gillingham charlesgillingham at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 11:48:24 PST 2020

Well said Mr. Wynn.

Discussions like this, like any discussion where you know what someone will
say before they say it, get boring fast. More and more, I'm sure this
distinction is genetic, everyone is born with either a L or a P gene. So
debate boils down to something like "well I think brown hair is best
because I have brown hair, " and so on.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 11:25 AM James Wynn <james.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Calling proponents of a position "politically correct" is itself a form of
> ad hominem. But if it is going to be *defended* as a category, then...
> In my experience, unironic "political correctness" gained a very bad
> reputation quite early -- by the late 80s -- because the people advocating
> for it demonstrated a very low bar for the definition of rudeness when
> encountering ideas they disagreed with and a very permissive bar for the
> punishment that should be meted out for perceived rudeness. They also
> demonstrated marked blindness for rudeness perpetuated in the name of
> "political correctness" (sometimes euphemized "the common good"). Nothing
> about the culture of PC has changed since then, but what has changed is an
> increased ability of some of its advocates to sequester themselves from the
> critiques of it and the various subcultures it spawned (callout culture,
> cancel culture, social credit scores).
> Rather than engaging inaccurate statements with ad hominem (see above), I
> think it is more effective to engage them with accurate speech untainted by
> personal emotion.
> ~ James
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 6:27 AM Norwood, Frederick Hudson <
> NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> wrote:
>> In my experience, people who complain about having to be “politically
>> correct” are people who want to say rude things and are really complaining
>> about not being allowed to be rude.
>> Rick
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