(urth) Borrowed Man writeup

Mon Oct 1 09:23:15 PDT 2018

That damn taffy ... Arabella and food. Saltwater, seascape - cold brook.
For real though, how is anybody supposed to figure out which of the
searchers is most associated with red? And the green ... I think Wolfe
mapped these colors allegorically onto one particular thing in each case
but how we can untangle that is still ... nebulous.

On Monday, October 1, 2018, Robert Pirkola <rpirkola at hotmail.com> wrote:

> On October 1, 2018 Marc Aramini wrote:
>
> >And violet is more of a mix between blue and red, the color of the planets
> >involved. However, besides the red cars (Geraldine, female persona of male
> >comedian flip Wilson) ... what is red? What to do with this?
>
> There are a couple of other references to red in the book.  Ern says that
> he wrote a series involving a character called The Red Searcher (pg. 112).
> There are red leather bar stools at Coldbrook manor (pg. 197).  Payne uses
> the term "macro-red" in some inscrutably slangy way: Ern: "You must find it
> unpleasant, I'm sure."  Payne: "You bet we do.  It's macro-red.  If you can
> tell me anything that might help, I'll be your friend for life, and that's
> no chad, see?"  (pg. 132).  Arabella remembers saltwater taffy that came in
> a box decorated with a seascape.  The taffies themselves were in "red,
> blue, and green wrappers".  (pg. 91).  RBG in Wolfe-land does not make me
> think of a Supreme Court Justice.
>
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> From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com>
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> Auto correct strikes: were is weer.
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> On Sunday, September 30, 2018, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Also, roglich gives them a second book in a blue binding. It has
> > equations. Equations are mentioned as omitted on page 221 as a secret,
> > where the burning man imagery starts. There are multiple copies of that
> > book of equations, on the second shelf. I think that resonates with
> > Arabella... but why equations? It is also to the bookcase that Roglich
> > speaks.
> > I think after 2001 Wolfe put more and more exposition in the embedded
> > symbols - they have been there before even Peace (Ben yahya- son of John
> > (were), Elia- olive: Olivia etc but now they are
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> Speaking of all the Co- names, when roglich points to the book he starts
> stuttering:? I-I ... c-could you bring me a copy of my book ... a th-thin
> book in a b-b-blue binding.? (82-3) I really think there is a relationship
> there.
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> On Sunday, September 30, 2018, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Auto correct strikes: were is weer.
> >
> > On Sunday, September 30, 2018, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Also, roglich gives them a second book in a blue binding. It has
> >> equations. Equations are mentioned as omitted on page 221 as a secret,
> >> where the burning man imagery starts. There are multiple copies of that
> >> book of equations, on the second shelf. I think that resonates with
> >> Arabella... but why equations? It is also to the bookcase that Roglich
> >> speaks.
> >> I think after 2001 Wolfe put more and more exposition in the embedded
> >> symbols - they have been there before even Peace (Ben yahya- son of John
> >> (were), Elia- olive: Olivia etc but now they are
> >
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> From: Robert Pirkola <rpirkola at hotmail.com>
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> Marc:
> I am reading through the write-up.  You pointed out that you felt after
> writing it that there is some connection between Arabella and sandwiches.
> With that in mind, this stuck out to me from your writing:  "[C]ould it be
> that Ern actually represents one which fits one side of the door but not
> the other? Would Arabella constitute the other side, assuming that her
> proliferation is slightly unnatural?"  Ern on one side of the door,
> Arabella on the other -- a sandwich.
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> Yes I really think this is the case.
> I am going to revise the ending a bit with these thoughts in mind but not
> too much - still going to leave that ?open? conclusion. Hope you don?t mind
> the quotes in there I used the list heavily in this one.
> On Sunday, September 30, 2018, Robert Pirkola <rpirkola at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Marc:
> > I am reading through the write-up.  You pointed out that you felt after
> > writing it that there is some connection between Arabella and sandwiches.
> > With that in mind, this stuck out to me from your writing:  "[C]ould it
> be
> > that Ern actually represents one which fits one side of the door but not
> > the other? Would Arabella constitute the other side, assuming that her
> > proliferation is slightly unnatural?"  Ern on one side of the door,
> > Arabella on the other -- a sandwich.
> >
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