(urth) Palaemon as Hierodule
marcaramini at gmail.com
Mon Feb 19 06:40:41 PST 2018
I had to look up where it was. It was chapter 10 of long and short of it.
“Other figures named after Faustian characters include: (sic) Dr. Margotte
and Megan Cartensen (both derive from Margaret, as does Goethe’s Margarete)
while Ellen and Little Nell recall Helen of Troy, and President Sanderson
is Alexander the Great”
In a book about Dickens characters, you just can’t in good conscience
derive Nell from Helen of Troy in that particular fashion.
At the end of that essay, borski noticed that the doctor is associated with
death and then sees his arrival at the end of the doctor of death island as
a sign of hope ... it’s like he notices valid things but can’t sustain
logic in his conclusions from them.
Reading wolfe analysis has led me to the conclusion that confirmation bias
and forced logic are the biggest problems. reader response should never
challenge self evident truths: Little Nell refers to the character of
Dickens’ Little Nell. Any association with Helen of Troy (Nell is
explicitly presexualized, Helen a specialized object of infamy) would have
to be found in the original Dickens’ novel, and it simply isn’t.
On Sunday, February 18, 2018, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
> When onomastics and onanism become synonymous ... at the point when he
> derived an allusive mythical name from another allusive mythical name using
> onomastics my blood pressure probably spiked to 200/130
> On Sunday, February 18, 2018, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I come across as a tyrant all the time. I am trying to change my public
>> image, and you have to go and ask about some specific Borski theory...
>> Whether it is widely accepted or not (i’d say no) ... it has very little
>> textual evidence and I choose not to believe it. But you can believe
>> whatever you want.
>> Borski’s validity is in linking apes to inire, but I think he goes way
>> too far in collapsing very different characters into each other and often
>> uses circular arguments (Agia is related to Severian because of the golden
>> light that touches her hair and the golden light touches her hair because
>> she is related to Severian, as one possibly spurious example I may have
>> made up- but he does stuff like that.)
>> Grains of salt like solar systems ...
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2018, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
>>> I've been reading bits of Borski, with whom I am not very familiar.
>>> He proposes that after Palaemon was exiled (at the same age as
>>> Severian), rather than returning, he was replaced by a masked Hierodule who
>>> watches over Severian.
>>> He further proposes that there are only two Hierodules, male and female,
>>> and that these aliens are also Inire and the Cumaean, among others.
>>> Palaemon himself then became the unnamed Old Leech who travels with Vodalus.
>>> Is this theory widely accepted ?
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