(urth) Theism Supports Free Will Better than Materialism Does
DAVID STOCKHOFF
dstockhoff at verizon.net
Fri Oct 17 09:26:37 PDT 2014
>One may imagine knights, rooks vs bishops, and of course queens. Even pawns can capture
>en passant.
Plus, if a pawn makes it to the end of the board, they can be brought back as a more powerful
piece. I think Wolfe intends this analogy for Severian (The Conciliator/New Sun) after he returns
from Yesod.
---Good one. Except he's almost more like a queen, at least after he becomes a god (see below).
>Knights are especially prominent (Jonas) and yet especially limited. Which best represents the
>Green Man?
As per my discussion with Jeffrery, I see The Green Man as a rook (without horizontal abilities),
able to make unlimited moves up and down one timeline (Urth to Ushas) but not able to explore
alternate realities, like Ragnarok. I think this in part because The Green Man is intent on "helping"
Severian.
---Works for me.
>Note that kings are basically important pawns that can move backward as well as castle.
Hm, that's a toughie. Maybe Severian is most like a King, at least before he reaches Yesod. He
can move a space backward or forward in time when he does his healing trick with the Claw.
---He already has become Autarch, which is a mundane sort of king, weaker than a queen. But almost from the beginning, he can move backward as you say, even before he elevates again after his apotheosis.
Funny how this turns some basic assumptions on their heads. A medieval king was a "temporal" power, bound by time, while popes were a sort of spiritual emperor. Severian is also a creature of time (only the Increate is not) but is not bound by it.
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On Friday, October 17, 2014 12:09 PM, Lee <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Tzadkiel compares Severian, as a human, to a pawn. I take the chessboard to be the symbol
>for time. Humans (normally) like a pawn on a chessboard, can only move forward and one
>space at a time."
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>>David Stockhoff:
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>>That's a handy analogy, if not a complete system.
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>Yes, I think Wolfe meant it only as a rough starting point. I've made some of the extrapolations
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>you make myself but you raise some interesting questions.
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>>There do seem to be essential limitations on all the time-traveling characters.
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>Except for The Increate? (who may not be a "character" and probably doesn't need to "travel"
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>being in all places and all times simultaneously).
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>>One may imagine knights, rooks vs bishops, and of course queens. Even pawns can capture
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>>en passant.
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>Plus, if a pawn makes it to the end of the board, they can be brought back as a more powerful
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>piece. I think Wolfe intends this analogy for Severian (The Conciliator/New Sun) after he returns
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>from Yesod.
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>>On the other hand, no chess pieces travel only backward as do Ossipago et al.
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>True although it has been argued that B, F and O must travel forward in time at least long enough
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>to converse with Severian and watch a play, etc.
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>>Knights are especially prominent (Jonas) and yet especially limited. Which best represents the
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>>Green Man?
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>As per my discussion with Jeffrery, I see The Green Man as a rook (without horizontal abilities),
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>able to make unlimited moves up and down one timeline (Urth to Ushas) but not able to explore
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>alternate realities, like Ragnarok. I think this in part because The Green Man is intent on "helping"
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>Severian. Doesn't the concept of "helping" become superfluous if you can explore various timelines
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>in which any outcome can happen?
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>>Note that kings are basically important pawns that can move backward as well as castle.
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>Hm, that's a toughie. Maybe Severian is most like a King, at least before he reaches Yesod. He
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>can move a space backward or forward in time when he does his healing trick with the Claw.
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>And he being replaced by an Eidolon is sort of like castling.
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