(urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"

[Jeffery Wilson]

On 9/9/2013 9:57 AM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com>
>
>> On Mon, September 9, 2013 00:19, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>>   Seems reasonable.  It's certainly not from increased solar flux.
>> However,
>>>   that would be a LOT of energy.  I'd wonder whether anybody at all could
>>>   survive.
>>
>> Indeed, the Yesodis don't expect them to survive, which is why they settle
>> the renewed earth with new people.
>
> Good point.
>
>>>   I think that a black hole, even as currently understood, would cool the
>>>   sun if it were significantly cooler than the temperature of the interior
>>>   of the sun.  You can have some fun at
>> <http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/>.
>>
>> It's really not fair to hold Wolfe to the standards of another 3-4 decades
>> of theoretical physics.
>
> That's why I said "even as currently understood".  I was just thinking about
> what might happen with current physics, as I take it Gerry was too, not holding
> Wolfe to anything.
>
>> We no longer have the expectation of transcending
>> space and dimension as when the Book was being written.
>
> I don't remember that we did then--did we?

A popular treatment in print was THE IRON SUN: ACROSS THE UNIVERSE WITH 
BLACK HOLES	(ISBN 0525134905, 9780525134909). Disney did a film called 
THE BLACK HOLE, and Blue Oyster Cult had
  some airplay with "Heavy Metal, Black and Silver".


>>>   Wait, I thought the black beans grew into the sea monsters, which is why
>>>   the woman had to throw them into the sea (instead of just dropping them on
>>>   the ground) to make them effective.  Robert Borski speculated along these
>>>   lines.
>>>
>>>   http://books.google.com/books?id=HykyT4UQ9JMC&pg=PA93
>>>
>>>   Anyway, it would make literary sense if whoever or whatever made the sun
>>>   cool also stopped plate tectonics (if it's stopped), and if the process
>>>   that fixed one also fixed the other.
>>
>> I think it's a stretch when she throws them on the *sun*'s grave.
>
> I'm not following.  What's a stretch?  What's the sun's grave?


I'm thinking it's figurative reference like, "I feel like someone is 
walking on my grave."

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Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
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