(urth) "been teaching literature for over 35 years"

Jerry Friedman jerry_friedman at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 9 07:57:16 PDT 2013


> From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com>

> On Mon, September 9, 2013 00:19, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>  Seems reasonable.  It's certainly not from increased solar flux.  
> However,
>>  that would be a LOT of energy.  I'd wonder whether anybody at all could
>>  survive.
> 
> Indeed, the Yesodis don't expect them to survive, which is why they settle
> the renewed earth with new people.

Good point.
 
>>  I think that a black hole, even as currently understood, would cool the
>>  sun if it were significantly cooler than the temperature of the interior
>>  of the sun.  You can have some fun at 
> <http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/>.
> 
> It's really not fair to hold Wolfe to the standards of another 3-4 decades
> of theoretical physics.

That's why I said "even as currently understood".  I was just thinking about
what might happen with current physics, as I take it Gerry was too, not holding
Wolfe to anything.

> We no longer have the expectation of transcending
> space and dimension as when the Book was being written.

I don't remember that we did then--did we?
 
>>  Wait, I thought the black beans grew into the sea monsters, which is why
>>  the woman had to throw them into the sea (instead of just dropping them on
>>  the ground) to make them effective.  Robert Borski speculated along these
>>  lines.
>> 
>>  http://books.google.com/books?id=HykyT4UQ9JMC&pg=PA93
>> 
>>  Anyway, it would make literary sense if whoever or whatever made the sun
>>  cool also stopped plate tectonics (if it's stopped), and if the process
>>  that fixed one also fixed the other.
> 
> I think it's a stretch when she throws them on the *sun*'s grave.

I'm not following.  What's a stretch?  What's the sun's grave?

Jerry Friedman




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