(urth) The Land Across Discussion (Spoilers!)

[Daniel Otto Jack Petersen]

Tantalising review!

http://io9.com/dont-expect-to-figure-out-gene-wolfes-new-novel-the-f-1484516074

-DOJP


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Antonin Scriabin
<kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>wrote:

> Welcome Piotr!
>
> I took that scene literally ... that Martya had sewing scissors or
> something like that in her purse, and used them to turn Volitain away!
>
> I think your and Andrew's suggestion makes a lot of sense: the hand
> belongs to the girl behind the mirror, and that Papa Zenon's burial wasn't *just
> *a burial, but some ritual intended to enchant the hand.  The hand (or
> more accurately, the spirit it is attached to) is friendly and protective
> towards Grafton because he put an end to the wait behind the mirror and got
> her a proper burial.
>
> The girl with the red pen wasn't a waitress, she was a patron in the cafe
> I believe.  I'm not sure what to think of her.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Piotr Szczęsny <neternalz at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> This is my first contribution to the urth list and I'd like to thank Matthew King for encouraging me to post here.
>>
>> So first off is my question, I'm not a native speaker, though my English is not bad, but you know, Wolfe use of language can be hard. So the thing that caught my attention is in this following sentences, Volitain , Martya and Grafton are looking for a cafe, they sit in one and dialogue goes like this:
>>
>>
>> "It is a place for feeling," Martya said as we trudged across the atrium. "Most quick I feel Volitain hand on my leg, and he my scissors."
>>
>>
>> (22 page in hardcover, Location 268 in Kindle edition)
>>
>>
>> The use of scissors is what bugs me... I understood this, as the Voltain places his hand on Martya leg, she closes her legs (scissoring motion), keeping a  tight grip on his hand?
>>
>> Thanks for any help with this.
>>
>> And next I'm going to address Matthew question:
>>
>> * Should we know what girl the hand belongs to?
>> Is it possible that hand belongs to the girl behind the mirror? I think so :She was curled, so missing hand could be overlooked by Grafton and he didn't get a good look at her.
>>
>> She (lady ghost & the hand)likes Grafton because she knows he made her a decent burial.And the Hand tried to kill Naala... Maybe of jealousy?
>>
>>
>> Also girl with red pen is the waitress in other cafe, right? I think she is somehow connected to the girl behind the mirror, and she thanks Grafton NOT for hitting that guy at cafe, but for burial of mirror girl but this is a little farfetched, what you think?
>>
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