(urth) Thea's Identity

DAVID STOCKHOFF dstockhoff at verizon.net
Mon Apr 22 09:03:36 PDT 2013


Silk is the most unjerky, I agree---although he THINKS he's been a jerk. Which may be more to the point.

And yeah, Latro comes off pretty well for practically being a barbarian. But he is a goddess-offender.





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>I would have to say Silk is more like a pedant or preachy fellow than a jerk, and Latro more like a heroic dupe.  Obviously this is pretty subjective stuff we are talking about.  
>Auk, sev, number five, Dunn, fr Chris - the shoe fits.  Maybe Mr Green gets a pass for being a schmoe. Latro strikes me as Wolfe's most straight up heroic character. 
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>On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:03 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
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>> On 4/22/2013 8:28 AM, Lee Berman wrote:
>>>> Horn is a jerk
>>>> Antonio Pedro Marques: I'm not so sure. Morality is by definition local.
>>>> Horn has no qualms about telling us his unsavoury thoughts and deeds.
>>>> Neither has the latter narrator. We may not like all they do and wish,
>>>> but Horn seems a bit above the average (New) Vironese. And notice he and
>>>> Nettle stayed together for many years, and raised 3 children, only having
>>>> issues with one of them, the other two loving. It's no feat for a jerk.
>>> This is my view of it also. Has there ever been a devoted, loving husband
>>> and father who did not occasionally feel boredom or even resentment toward
>>> his family? Who never got too involved in his own activities for a while? Who
>>> was never tempted by some young chippie? I think Wolfe pours his own heart into
>>> certain of his characters, perhaps most especially Weer and Horn. Perhaps the main
>>> point isn't that Horn is a jerk but that all men have a jerkish side to them.
>>> Naturally, this side will revel itself amidst the honesty demanded by a three
>>> novel-length story told in first person.                        
>> 
>> I defy anyone to identify a Wolfe character who is NOT a jerk. Everything else---the sympathy, the portrayal, the level of honesty---but they're practically all jerks.
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