(urth) Thea's Identity
severiansola at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 22 06:18:42 PDT 2013
>Jeff Wilson: Meh. The servants seem to have no trouble maintaining loyalty to
>the new Autachs, and it would make the Torturers, Witches, Librarians, and
>Stewards curious exceptions to the auto-cloning rule, as we know they get
>at least some of their number from outside the House and Citadel. It would
>bring into question why the autarch always has a great man soldiers but
>never enough, and it would fubar the basis for your identity intrigue on
Well, it was actualy David and Thomas who were mulling over the possibility of
autarch cloning and literal "self-rule", not me.
I get the impression that the commonality and autochthons types are not the usual
clients of the torturers and witches. Though a lot of fuss is made over such a highly
placed client as Thecla but all the torturer boys fantasize about which noble family they
may have been taken from. I would lean toward the convention that cloning is restricted to
exultants, armigers and servants of the throne for some combination of vanity and utility.
It might be for a source of blood for beauty like khaibits, the duplication of an effective
soldier or servant like Odilo, or the creation of a close companion as Pega was for Pelagia.
>Surely there being a power behind the throne is not unusual in literature?
I guess not, but my interest is in the frequency of the evil nature of such a power
and whether Father Inire was intended to fall into that classification. (not that
"evil" is going to be a straightforward concept in a Wolfe story)
>When does Gurloes talk to the voices?
>From Lexicon Urthus, Gurloes:
> is the only one in the guild who is not afraid of the voices at the top of the
>tower. (1, Chapt. 7, 78)
>Don't forget the doglike watchers, including aquastor-Triskele and the
Hm, I'd never thought to connect Trikele with the cynocephalus. That's interesting.
Yellow baboons have the name P. cynocephalus and I thought the monkey aspect was
the most important. But Father Inire has some dog-men soldiers so perhaps both
animals should be considered important associations with him.
>I think your compulsive bisociation has been fruitful here, Lee.
Heh, not compulsive enough to have connected the cynocephalus to Triskele. ;- ).
But in seriousness, I'm obviously not adverse to the spaghetti method of discussion
here; i.e. throwing things on the wall for discussion and seeing what sticks. But
seeing the angel shown to Severian on his request for the garden as cherubim does seem to
have a little extra sticking power.
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