(urth) Hard SF

Sergei SOLOVIEV soloviev at irit.fr
Wed Nov 28 09:53:43 PST 2012


And could it be that their "real" method of travel has something to do 
with strange capacity that
the narrator acquires to travel in tandem with them (at least in 
spirit)? Something like this
was considered also in "Silhouette" -

Sergei

Antonin Scriabin wrote:
> Yeah, the gravitational shenanigans were what made me think this 
> likely isn't the case.  However, introducing one big problem that 
> would get rid of several others (the previously posted lists of 
> reasons biological entities can't really travel through space 
> unprotected) is certainly attractive!  Perhaps the Inhumi travel in 
> "bubbles" of protective atmosphere, similar to the way some spiders 
> create aqualungs 
> <http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/06/spiders.html> for 
> themselves to travel underwater?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com 
> <mailto:danldo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Not really -- they both seem to have about one G of surface
>     gravity, so getting close enough that their atmospheres
>     meaningfully touched would involve massive tidal effects up to and
>     including immense tsunami and disastrous earthquakes.
>
>
>     On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Daniel Petersen
>     <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         That's a wonderful thought, Antonin!  Is this feasible?  (Both
>         generally and in the text?)
>
>         -DOJP
>
>
>         On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Antonin Scriabin
>         <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com <mailto:kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
>
>             Do we have any idea just how close Blue and Green get
>             during conjunction?  I seem to remember that from Blue,
>             Green is more of a spec than a moon, but perhaps they are
>             close enough, or have unusually expansive atmospheres,
>             such that during conjunction their atmospheres merge and
>             allow the Inhumi to fly from one to another.  If they are
>             this close though, they would most definitely fall under
>             the sway of one another's gravitational field, which
>             doesn't seem to be the case.
>
>
>
>             On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lee Berman
>             <severiansola at hotmail.com
>             <mailto:severiansola at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>                 >David Stockhoff: We're not talking about hard SF here.
>
>                 Just for the sake of discussion, I'll disagree.
>                 Perhaps Wolfe isn't diamond-hard
>                 but I'd give him ruby- or sapphire- on the MOhs scale.
>                 I think he makes a
>                 sincere attempt in most of his work, as the quote
>                 below illustrates.
>
>                 Where fantasy writers are content to give us shape
>                 changers without explanation,
>                 Wolfe provides us with a sponge cellular analogy for
>                 Tzadkiel and flexible bones
>                 and muscles, make-up and hypnotic abilities for Inhumi.
>
>                 If the Inhumi really fly through space I'd want more
>                 than the skimpy evidence we
>                 are provided (and less evidence for their lying nature).
>
>                 >Nick Gevers: Speaking as an engineer, how might the
>                 godling be constructed so as to
>                 >walk as a giant on land, where the undines [submarine
>                 giantesses] cannot?
>
>                 >Gene Wolfe: There are a number of ways you could go.
>                 First, get rid of the notion that
>                 >the godling is going to be proportioned like a human
>                 being. Changes in size always mean
>                 >changes in build. (Dr. Crane touches on that.) A man
>                 fifty feet tall, proportioned like
>                 >you or me, would sink into the ground a lot -- had
>                 you thought of that? Take a look at
>                 >the really big dinosaurs. Bone density could be
>                 increased, and the legs and pelvis made
>                 >more massive, and so on
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