(urth) Lupiverse(es)

Fri Mar 16 12:30:48 PDT 2012

I really enjoy the edition where it's printed as its own small book, with
illustrations by Maurice Sendak and an afterword by W. H. Auden.  (And I'll
side with Auden over Stockhoff as to the story and its author's worth - but
maybe the Stock finds Auden dull as well?  [If so only further proving my
theory that he is inhuman.])

You know, I actually first read that edition aloud to my daughter when she
was 5 or 6 and that was the go that really bowled me over.  David, do you
know of any bairns you can read it aloud to?

(Does anyone have experiences reading Wolfe aloud?  I've never done that, I
don't think.  Lafferty gains whole new dimensions when you do it with him -
I wonder what it would be like with Wolfe.  I picture it being more of a
reading to fellow adults scenario, rather than to children.)

-DOJP

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Antonin Scriabin
<kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>wrote:

> The Golden Key was a favorite of mine growing up.  I wish I could find my
> copy!
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Petersen <
> danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's the BEST!  You have
>> no soul!  You are not human, you are machine!
>>
>> (To be honest, it was on a second read that it blew me away.)
>>
>> -DOJP
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Golden Key: THAT's the one. Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull.
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 10:19 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
>>>
>>>  Try some of his short stories and novellas:
>>>
>>> Photogen and Nycteris (aka Day Boy & Night Girl, aka Son of the Day,
>>> Daughter of Night)
>>> Light Princess (aka Little Daylight)
>>> Golden Key
>>> Translations for Novalis
>>>
>>> Lewis and MacDonald never met. But Lewis credited MacDonald's fiction as
>>> an important element in his conversion. He (and the reception of his
>>> children) were important in the publication of Alice in Wonderland.
>>> Although he was a pastor for a time, his sermons and theology got him in
>>> trouble and he was eventually pushed out.
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2012 8:09 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure which of MacDonald's books I consider stilted and boring,
>>> although I encountered those as an adult. But I loved the Curdie books my
>>> mom read to me when I was four or five.
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2012 10:51 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:
>>>
>>>  Phantastes was a beautiful book! Never besmirch the name of MacDonald!
>>> heh heh...
>>>
>>>  As someone who was raised in a relatively a-religious family, I
>>> usually just ignored the obviously religious bits of Lewis/Tolkien/whoever
>>> else. But as I got older, I found that the non-"preachy" manner of
>>> fictional Christian works actually worked to explain why faith was
>>> interesting and attractive. After all, here was some fantasy that might be
>>> real on a certain level, or at least a number of people thought so.
>>>
>>>  That's a perspective I've had trouble explaining to friends who had
>>> that "betrayal" reaction to Narnia.
>>>
>>>    ------------------------------
>>> *From:* David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net><dstockhoff at verizon.net>
>>> *To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> <urth at lists.urth.net>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:42 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2012 10:32 PM, António Pedro Marques wrote:
>>> > Wasn't MacDonald a good half century older? And he was one of those
>>> mollified Presbyterians.
>>> > But is it fair to criticise didacticism which didn't pretend to be
>>> anything else? I mean, neither MacDonald nor Lewis, that I know of, tried
>>> to present their books as doctrinally free. At least MacDonald was overt as
>>> to their didactic nature. It isn't Lewis's fault if the Narnia books got
>>> popular that they were pushed everywhere as mere children's books without a
>>> caveat that they were had a religious undercurrent. Maybe the real issue is
>>> that they are popular because that undercurrent pleases people, just as
>>> Praise of Empire pleased others, and those who take exception to that way
>>> of writing resent the popularity.
>>>
>>> Well, if it's boring, it's boring. And it depends on what you mean by
>>> "didn't pretend"---as with Lewis, most of his readers were children. If you
>>> have no idea what you might be reading, you can't know whether it's
>>> pretense or not.
>>>
>>> Certainly Lewis wasn't responsible for whatever marketing got his books
>>> in my local library and into my hands. But I doubt they were and are
>>> popular because they are religious: rather, they probably are popular
>>> because they are accessible, imaginative (sometimes magical, as you said),
>>> action-packed, well-written, comforting (Aslan always appeared to set
>>> things right), and morally nonthreatening. Girls read them as much as boys
>>> did, and no parents objected to them.
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