(urth) Lupiverse(es)

[Antonin Scriabin]

The Golden Key was a favorite of mine growing up.  I wish I could find my
copy!

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Petersen <
danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:

> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's the BEST!  You have no
> soul!  You are not human, you are machine!
>
> (To be honest, it was on a second read that it blew me away.)
>
> -DOJP
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> Golden Key: THAT's the one. Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull.
>>
>> ;)
>>
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>> *From:* James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
>> *To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 10:19 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
>>
>>  Try some of his short stories and novellas:
>>
>> Photogen and Nycteris (aka Day Boy & Night Girl, aka Son of the Day,
>> Daughter of Night)
>> Light Princess (aka Little Daylight)
>> Golden Key
>> Translations for Novalis
>>
>> Lewis and MacDonald never met. But Lewis credited MacDonald's fiction as
>> an important element in his conversion. He (and the reception of his
>> children) were important in the publication of Alice in Wonderland.
>> Although he was a pastor for a time, his sermons and theology got him in
>> trouble and he was eventually pushed out.
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On 3/16/2012 8:09 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure which of MacDonald's books I consider stilted and boring,
>> although I encountered those as an adult. But I loved the Curdie books my
>> mom read to me when I was four or five.
>>
>> On 3/15/2012 10:51 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:
>>
>>  Phantastes was a beautiful book! Never besmirch the name of MacDonald!
>> heh heh...
>>
>>  As someone who was raised in a relatively a-religious family, I usually
>> just ignored the obviously religious bits of Lewis/Tolkien/whoever else.
>> But as I got older, I found that the non-"preachy" manner of fictional
>> Christian works actually worked to explain why faith was interesting and
>> attractive. After all, here was some fantasy that might be real on a
>> certain level, or at least a number of people thought so.
>>
>>  That's a perspective I've had trouble explaining to friends who had
>> that "betrayal" reaction to Narnia.
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *From:* David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
>> *To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:42 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
>>
>> On 3/15/2012 10:32 PM, António Pedro Marques wrote:
>> > Wasn't MacDonald a good half century older? And he was one of those
>> mollified Presbyterians.
>> > But is it fair to criticise didacticism which didn't pretend to be
>> anything else? I mean, neither MacDonald nor Lewis, that I know of, tried
>> to present their books as doctrinally free. At least MacDonald was overt as
>> to their didactic nature. It isn't Lewis's fault if the Narnia books got
>> popular that they were pushed everywhere as mere children's books without a
>> caveat that they were had a religious undercurrent. Maybe the real issue is
>> that they are popular because that undercurrent pleases people, just as
>> Praise of Empire pleased others, and those who take exception to that way
>> of writing resent the popularity.
>>
>> Well, if it's boring, it's boring. And it depends on what you mean by
>> "didn't pretend"---as with Lewis, most of his readers were children. If you
>> have no idea what you might be reading, you can't know whether it's
>> pretense or not.
>>
>> Certainly Lewis wasn't responsible for whatever marketing got his books
>> in my local library and into my hands. But I doubt they were and are
>> popular because they are religious: rather, they probably are popular
>> because they are accessible, imaginative (sometimes magical, as you said),
>> action-packed, well-written, comforting (Aslan always appeared to set
>> things right), and morally nonthreatening. Girls read them as much as boys
>> did, and no parents objected to them.
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