(urth) Father Inire as Dionysus

[Sergei SOLOVIEV]

I think it is mentioned several times in BoTNS that FI is an alien. Of 
course you need not trust
there "rumours" inside the book.

Each time we meet Hethor his character is immediately recognizable.
All that is told about the behaviour and manners of FI (and we may 
include "The Cat")
is quite different. How the idea that they are the same helps the story?

Sergei

António Pedro Marques wrote:
> Sergei SOLOVIEV wrote (24-10-2011 19:13):
>> António Pedro Marques wrote:
>>> David Stockhoff wrote (24-10-2011 18:25):
>>>> On 10/24/2011 1:16 PM, Lee Berman wrote:
>>>>> I believe it is the Old Autarch who tells Severian that Thecla was 
>>>>> chosen
>>>>> for her loyalty to Vodalus as a means to bind his followers more 
>>>>> tightly
>>>>> to him. I tend to think Vodalus as an expendable pawn of higher 
>>>>> powers
>>>>> (easily replaced by Agia with the help of...Hethor) who doesn't 
>>>>> really know
>>>>> that the true importance of his dinner choices (and all else that 
>>>>> he does)
>>>>> relates to Severian as a nascent New Sun
>>>>
>>>> Here's a thought.
>>>>
>>>> Old Autarch + Inire vs Vodalus + Inire
>>>>
>>>> New Autarch + Inire vs Agia and Hethor
>>>>
>>>> (1) The Vodalarii no longer need Inire's personal attention now 
>>>> that Sev is
>>>> here
>>>>
>>>> (2) Hethor is a lesser Inire, as Agia is a lesser Vodalus.
>>>
>>> Why isn't Hethor the same individual as Inire?
>>
>> If he is the same, why waste all these efforts making his biography
>> as a "sailor" (on spaceships)? Invent all his small hates, sadism etc?
>> Make him very human in this? Would Wolfe waste his time as an author?
>
> Notice that's precisely what's missing from FI's biography.
>
> How come, waste? I didn't ask whether H's curriculum was fictive. Why 
> can't it be FI's backstory?
>
>> By the way, no human emotions are attributed to any of the explicitly
>> alien personages in BoTNS. Would not making this in case of Hethor break
>> the rule (IF he is Inire, who is an alien).
>
> Maybe. And do we know for certain FI is an alien?
>
>> This is an example of
>> what I call conceptual inconsistency of many theories I see at this 
>> list.
>
> What is? Inconsistemt with what, if it's an isolated datum? What theory?
>
> What with people looking for FI in various places, I merely wondered 
> why not Hethor.
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