(urth) Father Inire as Dionysus
António Pedro Marques
entonio at gmail.com
Mon Oct 24 11:26:21 PDT 2011
Sergei SOLOVIEV wrote (24-10-2011 19:13):
> António Pedro Marques wrote:
>> David Stockhoff wrote (24-10-2011 18:25):
>>> On 10/24/2011 1:16 PM, Lee Berman wrote:
>>>> I believe it is the Old Autarch who tells Severian that Thecla was chosen
>>>> for her loyalty to Vodalus as a means to bind his followers more tightly
>>>> to him. I tend to think Vodalus as an expendable pawn of higher powers
>>>> (easily replaced by Agia with the help of...Hethor) who doesn't really know
>>>> that the true importance of his dinner choices (and all else that he does)
>>>> relates to Severian as a nascent New Sun
>>>
>>> Here's a thought.
>>>
>>> Old Autarch + Inire vs Vodalus + Inire
>>>
>>> New Autarch + Inire vs Agia and Hethor
>>>
>>> (1) The Vodalarii no longer need Inire's personal attention now that Sev is
>>> here
>>>
>>> (2) Hethor is a lesser Inire, as Agia is a lesser Vodalus.
>>
>> Why isn't Hethor the same individual as Inire?
>
> If he is the same, why waste all these efforts making his biography
> as a "sailor" (on spaceships)? Invent all his small hates, sadism etc?
> Make him very human in this? Would Wolfe waste his time as an author?
Notice that's precisely what's missing from FI's biography.
How come, waste? I didn't ask whether H's curriculum was fictive. Why can't
it be FI's backstory?
> By the way, no human emotions are attributed to any of the explicitly
> alien personages in BoTNS. Would not making this in case of Hethor break
> the rule (IF he is Inire, who is an alien).
Maybe. And do we know for certain FI is an alien?
> This is an example of
> what I call conceptual inconsistency of many theories I see at this list.
What is? Inconsistemt with what, if it's an isolated datum? What theory?
What with people looking for FI in various places, I merely wondered why not
Hethor.
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