(urth) Typhon's nature

[larry miller]

Or maybe that particular body of Typhons was grown from an embryo (Or
one of Jonas beans) and then downloaded into it when his original body
died?  I dont have the book on hand but I also seem to remember him
commenting on the longevity of physical bodies in contrast to the
longevity of consciousness.  Perhaps this wasn't in reference to human
bodies but to his original alien form.  Any thoughts on his other
comment about sending his thoughts out?

On 10/9/11, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
> aw, break a leg!
>
> On 10/9/2011 8:42 PM, Lane Haygood wrote:
>> The Scottish Play, if you please. I'll not have you bringing ill
>> fortune on us all.
>>
>> yvt,
>> LH
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> A simpler explanation of Typhon's remark is that he was born as Silk was
>>> born, i.e., from a surrogate mother.
>>>
>>> Recall Macbeth, where the witches' prophecy "not of woman born" was
>>> fulfilled by a cesarean birth. Surely Typhon outdoes Macduff (we are not
>>> much impressed by c-sections today) but probably it doesn't need to be by
>>> much. Perhaps he was grown in a vat and "decanted" or even genetically
>>> "designed," but he'd still need a human body to parasitize.
>>>
>>> On 10/9/2011 6:49 PM, larry miller wrote:
>>>> In the Sword of the Lictor Typhon says a few things that seems to
>>>> indicate an alien origin. He tells  Severian that "I was not born, at
>>>> least not in the way you mean it".   Also Typhon says that though he
>>>> has lived a day he has sent his thoughts to far places, seemingly
>>>> making contact with the megatherians.  This seems very similiar to the
>>>> astral abilities possessed by the Nieghbors.  Was Cillinia born on the
>>>> Whorl or Urth?  Perhaps she has a saints name because she was fathered
>>>> by Piaton and then later adopted by the alien Monarch?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/9/11, Andrew Mason<andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com>    wrote:
>>>>> Larry Miller wrote:
>>>>>> On first read I imagined Typhon as human native of Urth.  But Wolfes
>>>>>> naming strategum points at Typhon being of alien origin.
>>>>> I don't think it does, really. It's not humans, as such, but
>>>>> Commonwealth citizens who have saint's names; Ash, for instance, or
>>>>> Loyal to the Group of Seventeen don't. (Also Baldanders seems to be
>>>>> human in origin but to have adopted a monstrous name when he became a
>>>>> monster.)  And this principle is carried on into Long Sun/Short Sun;
>>>>> people born in the Commonwealth region on Urth (Mamelta, Roger) have
>>>>> saints' names, though no one else does. Also, here Typhon's daughter
>>>>> has a saint's name - Cilinia - which seems to imply that she is human.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if Typhon is an Urthling, or an off-earth human from one
>>>>> of the planets settled during the first empire; but I don't think he's
>>>>> totally alien.
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