(urth) Pike's ghost

Larry Miller decanus1284 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 30 20:04:37 PST 2011


I think thats part of it yeah.  Obviously theres got to be more to to
the story than that.  What do think about Inire?

On 11/30/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>larry miller: I dont think Inire was on Urth during Typhons time.
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>>He may have made visits to that time period via his mirrors but IMHO
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>>I dont believe he started taking part in Urths history until after
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>>Typhons downfall.  I wouldnt rule out though that he had a part in
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>>elevating Ymar (another lowly torturer) to the throne and establishing
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>>the line of Autarchs. Perhaps these were the purpose of the
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>>aforementioned visits?
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> Okay, so if I understand your view correctly, Inire's purpose on Urth is
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> to groom and support autarchs, with the eventually ascension of the right
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> one to New Sun status? I think this jibes with Borski's view and quite a
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> few others on this list (my own view differs).
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>>Gerry Quinn: In this case, the notion that Typhon would have wished or
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>>intended to live on as a pickled homunculus in a jar.  We actually know
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>>how he lived on.  And when he met Severian, he did not ask about the
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>>homunculus.
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> Nice try, Gerry, but no. At least you are understanding that Typhon on Urth
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> sat on a throne and was the subject of the pornographic painting. But your
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> attempt to play dumb here isn't working. I know you are smart. Smart enough
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> to know that a body prepared in waiting to receive a host personality
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> remain as a fetus nor pickled in a jar once the upload has taken place. You
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> are just pretending to not get it. Why would Typhon ask Severian about the
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> mandragora? Why would Severian be expected to know about that?  Anyway,
> isn't
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> Typhon more into telling Severian things than asking? Anyway, nice try. 		 	
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