(urth) Like a good Neighbor

[António Pedro Marques]

I think some of you are overlooking that there is precious little evidence 
that the *biology* of the Inhumi changes with their feeding on other 
life-forms. It's the soul that does. Otherwise they wouldn't have to go into 
'dream travel', something they are desperate to do (which suggests that they 
can't do it without the Rajan, and that the Neighbours are really gone), in 
order to be physically human. It is reasonably implied that along with 
impressive mimetism they have some way of mesmerising humans to achieve the 
illusion that they are human - but human they are not, physically.
Yeah, the Inhumi could be dream-travelling lianas, but they don't exhibit 
the traits we associate with dream-travellers.


Marc Aramini wrote (23-11-2011 22:45):
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>
> --- On Wed, 11/23/11, James Wynn<crushtv at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> 1) Why do only the vines create inhumi? The trees produce
>> everything else, right? And what is the chance that there
>> would be two separate plant species on Urth that essentially
>> perform the same function? And why did they not subsume
>> humanity from the start. Why is there not even a threat of
>> that until enough time has passed on Ushas for the original
>> recolonizers from Tzadkiel to become mythology?
>>
>
> Okay, the vines parasitized the trees and gained something of their function, but not the entire amount.  When the vines feed on reptiles, they are like reptiles.  And yes, the entire species of humanity was completely subsumed long long ago.  They moved on, they became the original "neighbors" and stepped sidewise somewhere or when.  Humanity diverged into a lower and higher path: neighbors and inhumi.  In the absence of fresh blood, the inhumi revert to their more animalistic form.
>
> This is very complicated by stories of Neighborly origin on blue ... but the trees of sentience are on green.
>
>
>> 2) You believe Horn's resurrection is an example of the
>> mechanism that transformed humanity into Neighbors. But you
>> don't really. You don't think the Horn that crawled out of
>> the pit is a Neighbor. You think he was somehow resurrected
>> after the tree ate him and produced the Neighbor-Horn. But
>> that is not what is supposed to happen.
>>
>
> No, i think the long nosed fellow causes the resurrection, the sharing of blood through being "dead food" is indicative of death "dead things are food".  The trees eat trees on green somehow, but it is not clear that they can only eat trees, and the eucharist scene is being watched by the vanished gods.
>
>
>> 3) The Neighbors started on Blue. Yet, you believe that
>> Green is Urth's future. But shouldn't they have started on
>> Green where humanity died? I think your Hybrid Theory is a
>> relic of your Blue Ushas theory...when you were trying to
>> figure out all the signs of Urth structures on Blue,
>> complete with its own Scylla. When you abandoned BU, you
>> grafted a new planet in its place like Typhon grafting his
>> head on to Piaton. But as with Typhon, there turn out to be
>> complications.
>>
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> This is the big big problem.  The neighbors starting on Blue, blue in general, everything about Blue, but ITS COLDER THAN URTH and COLDER THAN GREEN, I think that is very very important.
>
>> Rather than putting new wine in old bottles, I think you
>> need to start fresh. Urth is Green. Okay. How do we get from
>> Ushas to Green or from Green to Urth? Is Green *really* in
>> Urth's future or is there another solution.
>
> There is no indication that it is in the past, with the decayed relics, with the towers that are space ships, with the future of humanity KNOWN to be that of the green man and, lo and behold, vegetative life here (or do you deny that the neighbors and the inhumi are related to plants?)  The ship left in Typhon's past, Silk thinks of Green as it was before its present state when he winds up on Urth, etc etc.  There is nothing that indicates it is in the past thematically in the book, Green is an old abandoned decayed relic.
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