(urth) Heirax is dead

Marc Aramini marcaramini at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 23 10:01:50 PST 2011


The format got screwed up on the bottom, the part that is the second to last paragraph was not what I wrote, sorry.  Also, I think I confused Hierax and tartaros, so sorry.

--- On Wed, 11/23/11, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Heirax is dead
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Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 9:53 AM








--- On Wed, 11/23/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:


From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Heirax is dead
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Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 9:08 AM



This  post is kind of a backsliding from my rejection of Silk As Typhon's Son in favor of Silk As Typhon. 
They still could BOTH be true.


On 11/23/2011 9:02 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
The best evidence for cloning is found in statements like "Pas grew himself from a seed" and the idea of a nightside and regular Silk, but the particulars of the text make it much more tenable to identify the parents if we are dealing with a son, which is, as Lemur said, what Typhon wanted to replace him.
Typhon /had/ such a son...whoever was the original Hierax. Lemur claims that he was "so" like his father in every way. 
Suppose that Typhon, wearying of trying to produce a suitable male heir, had himself cloned? Suppose that Silk is a clone of that clone. 

There is a scene in RttW in which is it stated that Hierax is "dead" -- that he has been entirely wiped from the Mainframe and 
It has always struck me that the scene is intentionally suggestive.


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[Rajan says,] "You know, just as Pig and I do, what was said earlier; and we’re none of us children. For an augur to die before his Sacred Window, and particularly for him to die by a steel blade as sacrifices die, is a great honor. It is the death every augur yearns for. I don’t intend to imply that it isn’t wrong to kill an augur under those circumstances; but when an augur dies in such a manner, other augurs and many pious laymen must wonder whether that death was not arranged by Hierax, as a reward.” 
Pig said, “Hierax is dead.” 
Hound stared at him. 
[Rajan says] “I see. I didn’t know that, though I surmised that it might be the case. No doubt it’s for the best.” 
RttW, chpt 10, Through Quadifon's Door
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The reason that I have always considered the scene suggestive is that Echidna and Scylla have also been wiped. Everyone directly involved in Pas's murder is on the lam. Why is it supposedly so shocking that Hierax is dead? 
Well, it is significant that the body of one of the people standing there has also died.

Of course, the implication of this theory is that one of the mothers on the Aureate path is Echidna.

 

You remember that blind guy who reminds Horn of Auk that he kills in the purging of the sewer on Green?  (or maybe he's swept away, I need to recheck -can't remember how that scene ends)  I always thought maybe that somehow had some connection to the death of Hierax, because it WASN'T Auk, as far as I remember.
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