(urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy

[James Wynn]

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>> > Gerry Quinn wrote:
> I'm just saying that there is no indication that they are together.  
> Which is very odd, if your time travelling explanation has any 
> validity.  Where's Pike at this time?  Mucor is long gone when he 
> appears.  And when he appears he has no raven.

We've already seen the night chough. Just because Silk had not seen the 
Rajan yet does not mean he is not there here. Oreb's presence says he 
must be. As is always the case, Oreb flitters with a wide latitude 
around Silk and Rajan. Do you mean that there is no indication that 
flying Oreb and Mucor are together other than that they ARE there in the 
room together? If they aren't there together it would be very odd for my 
theory indeed. As Andrew Mason pointed out some time ago, it would be 
peculiar if a Time-travelling Oreb/Pike and a "merely" astrally 
traveling Mucor *happened* to be there at the same time. Oreb's presence 
is the most emphatic clue that Mucor is Time-traveling as well. If I had 
no explanation for why Mucor was there at the same time an astral Oreb 
was there, would you be instead offering  that has a strike against my 
explanation?

The following is a rendition of the events stripped of any so-called 
extra-textual explanations:
Oreb with his broken wing hopped up the stairs to Silk's room, up on a 
dresser or something, then hopped over the window sill.
Suddenly Mucor appears for no reason we are given and leaves when Silk 
wakes up.
Oreb jumps out of the window without regard to his damaged wing. He 
denies he was in Silk's room even after Silk promises he won't be 
punished for it.
A few minutes later, Silk hears movement upstairs in Pike's room. He 
goes up to find the gothic ghost of Pike returning like Marley on 
Christmas eve. But instead of making a prophecy or requesting help, he's 
just there to try on his old clothes. He waves and disapperates into a 
mist just as Mucor did (but there is no connection).

Who care's if this explanation is *possible*. WE know it is extremely 
improbable. Now that we've detailed it, let's agree to dispense with it 
and try to figure out what is actually going.

> If you're going to put words in my mouth, try to use words that 
> approximate in some way to what I have said.  I said Silk's 
> explanation for Oreb is at least possible.  I did not say it was 
> correct, nor that no puzzle exists.

You aren't saying that puzzles exist either.
It is possible to step out and say where you lean. Stick your neck out a 
little.

>>
> So why is the Rajan (if it is he) wearing [callotte]?  It seems a 
> reasonable question.  Mind you, at least it is something he actually 
> *does* on this supposed time-travelling excursion, which otherwise 
> seems largely unmotivated.

Why do he and Oreb go back to participate in the grandmother's tale? 
Because he knows he is supposed to.
As for why he takes Mucor there--although Mucor is satisfied that she 
has found "Silk"-- the Rajan is more literal about requests and takes 
her to the "actual" Silk. When she sees him, she realizes that this is 
not the Silk Horn is seeking, so she leaves her astral traveling and 
returns to Horn.

> > One very obvious conclusion is that Pike looks as Silk will look 
> when he is old.
> > Alternately, an obvious conclusion following from that is that Pike 
> and Master
> > Malrubius look strikingly similar.
> But Silk as the Rajan is *not* all that old.  Also, he has only one 
> eye.  I don't know what Master Malrubius has to do with the issue of 
> whether Pike looks like an older Silk, but there doesn't seem like 
> there should be any biological reason for such a resemblance between 
> Pike and Silk.

Really? You can't think of a single biological reason that Pike might 
look like an older version of a bio-engineered embryo? Nothing occurs to 
you? Nothing?
The Rajan is 20 years older than Silk but his body has been through it. 
He is lacking eye. His hair is white and long. And as has been been 
pointed out, in dream travel he doesn't look *exactly* like his body. 
When Silk sees him the resemblance is close enough that he draws a firm 
conclusion based on his current knowledge.
WE know it is the Rajan because we know Oreb is there. We know it for 
the same reason we knew that the sorcerer in the grandmother's tale was 
the Rajan. Everything else follows from that. And by the same token we

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