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<div>I’m just saying that there is no indication that
they are together. Which is very odd, if your time
travelling explanation has any validity. Where’s
Pike at this time? Mucor is long gone when he
appears. And when he appears he has no raven.</div>
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We've already seen the night chough. Just because Silk had not seen
the Rajan yet does not mean he is not there here. Oreb's presence
says he must be. As is always the case, Oreb flitters with a wide
latitude around Silk and Rajan. Do you mean that there is no
indication that flying Oreb and Mucor are together other than that
they ARE there in the room together? If they aren't there together
it would be very odd for my theory indeed. As Andrew Mason pointed
out some time ago, it would be peculiar if a Time-travelling
Oreb/Pike and a "merely" astrally traveling Mucor *happened* to be
there at the same time. Oreb's presence is the most emphatic clue
that Mucor is Time-traveling as well. If I had no explanation for
why Mucor was there at the same time an astral Oreb was there, would
you be instead offering that has a strike against my explanation?<br>
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The following is a rendition of the events stripped of any so-called
extra-textual explanations:<br>
Oreb with his broken wing hopped up the stairs to Silk's room, up on
a dresser or something, then hopped over the window sill. <br>
Suddenly Mucor appears for no reason we are given and leaves when
Silk wakes up. <br>
Oreb jumps out of the window without regard to his damaged wing. He
denies he was in Silk's room even after Silk promises he won't be
punished for it.<br>
A few minutes later, Silk hears movement upstairs in Pike's room. He
goes up to find the gothic ghost of Pike returning like Marley on
Christmas eve. But instead of making a prophecy or requesting help,
he's just there to try on his old clothes. He waves and disapperates
into a mist just as Mucor did (but there is no connection). <br>
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Who care's if this explanation is *possible*. WE know it is
extremely improbable. Now that we've detailed it, let's agree to
dispense with it and try to figure out what is actually going. <br>
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<div>If you’re going to put words in my mouth, try to use
words that approximate in some way to what I have said. I
said Silk’s explanation for Oreb is at least possible. I
did not say it was correct, nor that no puzzle exists. <br>
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You aren't saying that puzzles exist either. <br>
It is possible to step out and say where you lean. Stick your neck
out a little.<br>
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<div>So why is the Rajan (if it is he) wearing [callotte]?
It seems a reasonable question. Mind you, at least it is
something he actually *does* on this supposed
time-travelling excursion, which otherwise seems largely
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Why do he and Oreb go back to participate in the grandmother's tale?
Because he knows he is supposed to. <br>
As for why he takes Mucor there--although Mucor is satisfied that
she has found "Silk"-- the Rajan is more literal about requests and
takes her to the "actual" Silk. When she sees him, she realizes that
this is not the Silk Horn is seeking, so she leaves her astral
traveling and returns to Horn. <br>
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> One very obvious conclusion is
that Pike looks as Silk will look when he is old. <br>
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<div>> Alternately, an obvious conclusion following from
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<div>> Malrubius look strikingly similar.</div>
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<div>But Silk as the Rajan is *not* all that old. Also, he
has only one eye. I don’t know what Master Malrubius has
to do with the issue of whether Pike looks like an older
Silk, but there doesn’t seem like there should be any
biological reason for such a resemblance between Pike and
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Really? You can't think of a single biological reason that Pike
might look like an older version of a bio-engineered embryo? Nothing
occurs to you? Nothing?<br>
The Rajan is 20 years older than Silk but his body has been through
it. He is lacking eye. His hair is white and long. And as has been
been pointed out, in dream travel he doesn't look *exactly* like his
body. When Silk sees him the resemblance is close enough that he
draws a firm conclusion based on his current knowledge. <br>
WE know it is the Rajan because we know Oreb is there. We know it
for the same reason we knew that the sorcerer in the grandmother's
tale was the Rajan. Everything else follows from that. And by the
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