(urth) Fwd: Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy

[António Pedro Marques]

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> De: António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>
> Data: 17 de Novembro de 2011 17h03min18s WET
> Para: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Assunto: Re: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
> 

> James Wynn wrote (17-11-2011 16:36):
>> On 11/17/2011 10:22 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand now why you dislike the idea that Horn went into Babbie. I
>>> think it's a matter of how you conceive the behavior of minds and memories
>>> when they move around. I can see Horn as either resurrected or replaced.
>>> 
>>> If we could pin down the prophecy that might help!
>> 
>> Well, I still see Horn in Babbie. I see Rose in Marble's hands. Kypris was
>> in the Mainframe and in Chenille at the same time. I have no problem with
>> Marc's interpretation that Horn-in-Babbie is trying to communicate with his
>> sons.
>> 
>> Marc and I agree with how Silk is reanimated in front of Hyacinth's casket.
>> It is just that I think the same process occurred for Horn.
> 
> But you're not at all describing it as the same.
> 
> - Horn physically dies and is resurrected (how at all?) with a Neighbour's spirit who acquires his personality (how, alzabo-wise)?
> 
> - The Neighbour pretending to be Horn knows nothing about the Neighbours, so he has to interact with them as if he were plain Horn.
> 
> - The Neighbour pretending to be Horn is about to die physically (again) and is told by the Neighbours they can send his spirit (the Neighbour's? Horn's? Why one and/or not the other or both) into Silk's body, whose 'spirit is dying'. Now, I haven't met any character in the books whose spirit actually can die, so I can only assume it is metaphor - either Silk was about to provoke his own physical death, or he'd walk along as a zombie, but that isn't death, nor irrevocable (though psychiatry in the Whorl isn't better than ours).
> 
> - After Horn's and/or Neighbour pretending to be Horn's spirit enters Silk, Silk's spirit remains dormant for long, but if we are to believe the preceding point then that would have happened all the same. So it's different from Horn's assumed death at the pit.
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