(urth) Sundial with "multitudinous faces"?
Jerry Friedman
jerry_friedman at yahoo.com
Thu May 12 13:00:05 PDT 2011
> From: James Wynn
Gwern: > >> It occurred to me that the sundials probably date back to Urth's
> >> interstellar empire if not earlier. Maybe they tell times on different
> >> *worlds*.
Dan'l: > > I don't see how you could do that - a sundial is limited to a 24-hour
> > cycle (during about half of which it isn't showing anything).
>
> I would think you could. Any regular tick-tock could analogize a time using a
>different synch. It would be incredibly complex though since a day somewhere
>else would be represented by more or less than a single cycle of the sun.
It would have to be magic. Sundials don't have a regular tick-tock.
> However, doesn't Relativity eliminate the meaning of synchronous time for
>locations separated by many lightyears?
There's no problem if they're not moving at relativistic speeds with respect to
each other (contrary to occasional double-talk that Poul Anderson permitted
himself).
So maybe not different worlds, but different whorls. If a generation starship's
day is the same length as Urth's, it's no problem. Having a different face
instead of a different scale of hours is showing off, but obviously people have
done that. (Thanks to all who linked to the interesting photos.)
> I'm not an expert on this but it seems I read something that implied that. For
>example, traveling in a worm-hole (such the ones in the Stargate franchise) is
>actually Time-travel as well.
If you can get from one place to another faster than light, as with a wormhole,
then you *can* use that to travel faster than light.
Jerry Friedman
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