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[Stuart Hamm]

forgive me...I thought the dilemma was that if Quetzal got on board the whorl when only when it was in orbit, 40 years would not be enough time for hm top became so ingrained in the society and rise to his position of power...

             
 
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--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote:

From: Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie>
Subject: Re: (urth) grumble at wolfe comment made attached to guardianarticle
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Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:08 AM


From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
> This quote only says the Neighbors were infected humanity with inhumi. It doesn't say they brought them on the Whorl. That's one way they could have done it--if beings who can dream-travel would have their own spaceships and if the Whorl would allow an alien spacecraft to dock. This quote could be also interpreted as "They supported the Plan of Pas to bring humanity to Green." This quote is a gold coin in the bucket--it tells us about the Neighbor's motives--it doesn't explain how and when they accomplished it. Anyone got any more evidence?

It *does* say the Neighbours went to the Whorl.  "There" in "There the Vanished People went?" is the Whorl.

I've added a bit more to the quoted text for more context.  It seems to make it pretty clear that they did indeed visit the Whorl and left inhumi among the people there.

How else could Quetzal have gotten there?

You have suggested that there was a landing on Green shortly after the Whorl arrived in the system.  Such a landing is certainly possible, although there is no textual evidence for it.  But even if there were such a landing, it seems implausible that they would bring Quetzal back - and even more implausible that everyone would completely forget about the event while Quetzal somehow became an augur and rose through the ranks of the local church!

By the way, Silk can dream travel and at thee end of _Return_ he is looking for a spaceship. As for the Vanished People, maybe they landed on the surface and bored their way in.

- Gerry Quinn


>>> So...how DID Quetzal get aboard the Whorl????
>> 
>> The Neighbours brought inhumi to the Whorl.  We are told in Chapter 11 of _Return to the Whorl_:
>> ***********************************************
>> Then, "Sometime back like you I go, mysire?"
>> "Back to Viron, you mean, Vadsig?"
>> "To Viron, yes, mysire. Also to Grotestad. To go to the Long Sun Whorl I would like. Always of it you talk, and cook, and my old master and mistress. In Grotestad they were born, mysire, but never it I have seen."
>> I told her it was possible she would.
>> "There the Vanished People went?"
>> I nodded.
>> "To greet us it was?"
>> "You might put it so, though they were sensible enough to find out a good deal about us - and infect us with inhumi -"
>> "Bad thing!"
>> "Before they ventured to greet even a few of us.
>> "Bad it was," Vadsig agreed with Oreb."To leave inhumi among us?" I shook my head. "It was a small price to pay for two whorls, and it enabled the Neighbors to gauge much more accurately the differences between our race and their own."
>> *************************************************

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