(urth) Corundum of the Claw

[Jordon Flato]

And Wolfe is on record as saying that the only thing we're ever told that
Jesus the Carpenter's son made was a Whip.

Witz and I have always been in agreeance on this, and because of that, I'm
more likely to find textual support for the idea than for the idea of him as
some sort of anti-christ.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org <
Sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:

> On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:05 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > There's a bit in John that says (I paraphrase): Jesus does not come to
> put the world on trial or to condemn it, but to rescue it.
> >
> > Severian comes to carry out a death sentence.
>
>
> I definitely feel that "the Sev is not divine" arguments are fine and
> appropriate, and I don't care to try to convince anyone, but I think it's a
> shame that people get hung up on this idea that Severian did a bad thing,
> that he "carried out a death sentance".
> This view is not, er, holistic to the themes. The most boiled down theme in
> this book, holographically repeated, is Death and Resurrection. We must not
> forget that.
>
> Severian brought renewed life to the planet. the death of Urth was the
> birth of Ushas, and the resurection of the dying planet.  To miss this is to
> fundamentally misunderstand the books, I think.  To view this as a death
> sentence, one is basically taking the short sighted selfish side that
> Severian's foes had. They would deny the future for a few more years for
> themselves.
> Fuck that.  This is a cycle that we see in nature. The forest has to burn
> for it's own good, periodically.
>
> I'm sorry, just about any reading goes, but to just see Severian's act as a
> just tradgedy seems to completely miss the point.
>
> It had to be a torturer to deliver the death stroke that brought new life.
> No one else would obey. Everyone else prefers to save themselves and cling
> to their attachments like children.  Severian did a difficult, necessary,
> and beautiful thing.
>
> ~witz
> _______________________________________________
> Urth Mailing List
> To post, write urth at urth.net
> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20100624/9ed88019/attachment-0004.htm>