(urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")
brunians at brunians.org
brunians at brunians.org
Fri Jun 4 13:57:19 PDT 2010
Jibrail is a demiurge.
.
> Okay. But I'm talking about the particular famous demiurge of 1st & 2nd
> c. Christian Gnostics. The one who was supposed to have spoken to Moses.
> The one I think Typhon/Pas models.
> There are lots of various actions of an antichrist as well, I suppose.
> He might only mislead regarding the Gospel.
>
>> A demiurge is a ranking celestial who has been assigned by God to
>> perform
>> a particular task.
>>
>> He (or she) may or may not behave as you describe.
>>
>> It depends upon a lot of factors.
>>
>>
>>> > A demiurge is a god who presents himself as The God. He's yet he is
>>> the
>>> > creator of the world, worshipping him does not lead to
>>> > salvation/enlightenment.
>>> > The Antichrist (or in some cases, no doubt, an antichrist) is a MAN
>>> who
>>> > presents himself as God.
>>> >
>>> > Obviously, the very creation of Pas as an object of worship would be
>>> > something an antichrist would do.
>>> > But Typhon*did* create the Whorl. He is never overthrown from his
>>> > creation. In fact, Silk and Auk help to place him back on his
>>> throne.
>>> >
>>> > So Typhon/Pas (and I heard Wolfe say last September that they are
>>> > absolutely equivalent) is a demiurge not The Antichrist of the New
>>> > Testament.
>>>
>
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