(urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")

[brunians at brunians.org]

It is biologically based.

If a man does not have orgasms, he becomes capable to perform certain
spiritual acts which he cannot otherwise perform, or not as well.

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> I disagree with that, actually.
>
> I recognize that, oh, historically, there were various secular causes for
> priestly celibacy.  But there's a pretty well-established human impulse to
> recognize things associated with the transcendent or divine by "setting
> them
> apart," and requiring that the intermediaries between God and man give up
> some form of "normal" human life is a perfectly natural way for that
> impulse
> to be satisfied.
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:11 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
>
>> Priests are celibate for reasons which have nothing to do with religion
>> per se.
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> > How Catholic is the Chapter, really?
>> >
>> > Naturally there are elements in the liturgy and priestly celibacy.
>> But
>> > the
>> > Catholic liturgy did not spring forth fully formed either, and
>> priestly
>> > celibacy is not a uniquely Christian practice either (many Buddhist
>> > groups,
>> > um...Vestal Virgins...have to be others as well).
>> > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:04 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On the other hand, it is possible for a "Catholic Church" to have
>> been
>> >> established in the Commonwealth without a Jesus (complete with
>> crosses)
>> >> merely in correspondence to the vibrations of our Universe, just as
>> in
>> >> Green's dimension (There Are Doors) grooms wear black at weddings
>> only
>> >> because they do it in Lara's dimension.
>> >>
>> >> In that case, the Chapter is a parody of an echo. But somehow I find
>> >> that
>> >> less satisfying.
>> >>
>> >> J.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> True for just about any character in a Wolfe story.
>> >>>
>> >>>> I'm not sure how trustworthy a source Lemur is...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:36 AM, James Wynn<crushtv at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Doesn't Wolfe undermine the idea that Urth's universe has no Jesus
>> in
>> >>>>> "The
>> >>>>> Book of the Long Sun"? Lemur told Silk that Scylla founded the
>> >>>>> Chapter
>> >>>>> as a
>> >>>>> "parody of the state religion of her own whorl". I suppose it is
>> >>>>> possible to
>> >>>>> claim that that "state religion" was not Catholicism, but I don't
>> >>>>> know
>> >>>>> why
>> >>>>> anyone would bother.
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