(urth) more thoughts on Jolenta

[Cliff Judge]

The Claw did not work on her. Didn't the Claw also not work on Jonas?

Why didn't the Claw work on Jolenta?

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Jack Smith <jack.smith.1946 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think Jolenta is simply a poor human waitress and the wires are part of
> Talos' transformation procedure.
>
> "The woman you call Jolenta" is an interesting statement.   It calls
> attention to the fact that she had another name.   Does anyone know of any
> clues about her real name?    *Lexicon Urthus *indicates that the meaning
> of "Jolenta" is "the pretty one."  The name is part of the glamour that Dr
> Talos, like a Hollywood producer, creates.  Norma Jeane Baker becomes
> Marilyn Monroe;  Frances Ethel Gumm becomes Judy Garland.    Who was the
> waitress who became Jolenta?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Cliff Judge <transentient at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> So we've got these plain, poor girl waitign tables at a cafe who is
>> "discovered" by Dr. Talos, who "casts a glamour" on her to make her
>> superhot.
>>
>> But something about what she said when the troupe split after the thiasus
>> struck me. She said they were going to "destroy" her.
>>
>> And then there is the fact that her lifeless body, later, has circuitry
>> and stuff going on.
>>
>> Now the clearest story here is that she was just a poor waitress, and Dr.
>> Talos' thaumaturgy involved prostheses to make her thighs and breasts plump,
>> her face and hair beautiful, and probably to give her confidence as well.
>>
>> But Jonas was certainly an android, and he fell for her immediately and
>> completely. He once refers to her as "the woman you call Jolenta;" he had
>> another name for her, but perhaps he KNEW another name for her?
>>
>> Could Jolenta have been an android as well? Perhaps she was an android the
>> whole time, and without bringing attention to this fact, Dr. Talos simply
>> recognized her as such when they first visited the cafe and thanked his
>> lucky stars that he found a model he could work with.
>>
>> Jolenta ate food on a couple of occasions, didn't she? I believe Jonas is
>> shown to both eat and sleep. I have read it theorized that Dr. Talos is an
>> android built by Baldanders, and he does not eat, sleep, or require the
>> company of women, and we know that Jonas was in the process of fleshifying
>> himself. But still...the idea nags me with how robotic Jolenta seemed.
>>
>> I also read a theory that the Lady Katherine woman was an android.....ooh.
>> Hey, wonder if they were the same person.
>>
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> Jack
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