(urth) Appearances of Inire

John Watkins john.watkins04 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 1 11:09:02 PDT 2010


2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>

> John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 18:22):
>
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> A universe under the dominion of an evil being that poses and is seen as
> doing God's will is consistent with the existence of a benign God?
>
> It's the premise of Gnosticism, isn't it?  And arguably of Christianity,
just on a grander scale.



>   Regardless, we are getting afield of the question.
>>
>>         > I honestly think top-posting usually isn't helpful - maybe
>>        it's early
>>         > afternoon drowsiness but I can't grasp your point.
>>         >
>>         > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 16:31):
>>         >> Tdazkiel's people are themselves artificial...awfully difficult
>>            to blame
>>         >> God for their control over the universe.
>>         >>
>>         >> 2010/7/1 António Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
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>>        <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>
>>         >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>
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>>         >>
>>         >>     Option 2 I think is untenable.
>>         >>
>>         >>     - If God is good, then it makes no sense to create a
>>        universe in
>>         >> which:
>>         >>       + God's creatures are toys in an evil power's hands
>>         >>       + God's creatures believe that the evil power is not evil
>>            at all
>>         >>     and is doing God's work
>>         >>       + those who oppose the evil power are not, generally
>>        speaking,
>>         >>     better people than the others, and in fact seem to be
>> worse.
>>         >>
>>         >>     - If God isn't good then by what standard can we call
>>        such an
>>         >>     unfathomable being as Tzadkiel evil?
>>         >>
>>         >>     Keeping option 3 doesn't mean that the acts of Tzadkiel
>>        need no
>>         >>     atoning for, it just means they're done with the best of
>>            intentions
>>         >>     and knowledge. We have a saying here, 'Of [people with]
>> good
>>         >>     intentions is Hell full'.
>>         >>
>>         >>     Antonio
>>         >>
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