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[Ryan Dunn]

Fascinating.

I only wish Fr. Inire to Fenrir was a true anagram.

F E N R I R

F R I N I R E

One too many I's, unless we get epically poetic:

I, Fenrir

or we get back to origins:

Fenrir I

As in Fenrir the First, with Fechin and Rudesind (boatman?) as cloned descendants.

...ryan


On Jul 13, 2010, at 10:48 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:

> It seems like a stretch, but I for one expect that Wolfe will stretch for a wolf reference. I think he expects us to expect that of him.
> 
> The words "inire" and "finire" (initiate/begin and bring to an end) are enough to start us off on that path, combined with the logical "Fr. Inire." He probably began the Autarchy, he initiates Urth into a mystery, he facilitates the end with the last Autarch.
> 
> I'll bet the man is a mean crossword puzzler.
> 
> Thomas Bitterman wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com <mailto:crushtv at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        That may have been a bit hasty, but the even though the
>>        fettered Fenrir
>>        was tied to Gyoll, Inire is awfully mobile about his duty
>>        station and
>>        commands means of egress and ingress - his position is more like
>>        Heimdall guarding Bifrost and standing sentry over doings in
>>        distant
>>        places on other worlds. It doesn't hurt that Heimdal is also the
>>        "Father" of the classes of men, in disguise as another person yet
>> 
>> 
>>    Just when I'm ready to leave the Norse association behind, you
>>    pull me back in. You're right about Heimdall because he's the
>>    Norse Janus. The link between Janus, Pan, and Osirus is Priapus
>>    who was variously associated with all of them. Heimdall, as the
>>    father of humanity, fits right in there. That leaves us here with
>>    reasonable mythological associations for Typhon, Severian, and Inire.
>> 
>>    The only frustrating thing is that the monster Typhon doesn't fit
>>    for any this. Fenrir doesn't fit for any of this either except in
>>    one way. He is an important father too...he's the father of the
>>    race of wolves. And, yeah, his rock is Gyoll which is also a
>>    mythical river.
>> 
>> 
>> Fenrir as father of "Wolfe"s is good enough for me.
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