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[David Stockhoff]

Interesting. While those possibilities are not disprovable, I think they 
are false.

As to your answer---none of those are disprovable either. There is no 
answer to those questions and therefore they are useless distinctions. 
We need an OBSERVABLE difference, don't we? I propose that we got 
Christ, and they didn't.

I'm with Lee: Briah is a fallen world with a Serpent but without a 
Christ. That's what Wolfe was exploring.

On 12/15/2010 6:44 PM, Son of Witz wrote:
>
> Why create a fictional universe if it is fundamentally the same as our own?
> Well, are you sure that our universe is cyclically recreated in the same pattern again and again?
> Are you sure that we shaped a race of beings that in turn shapes us?
> I'm not sure, but I think it's probably true.
>
> Anyway, I don't have the quote, but somewhere Wolfe said something to the idea that he wrote New Sun to explore the ramifications of his beliefs.
> Personally, I think he attempted to reconcile his convert-Catholic belief in Christ with his beliefs in other worlds, ideas about cyclicality of reality and temporal causality, belief in powers higher than humanity, his revolt against the modern world, and perhaps a belief that extra terrestrials helped shape humanity, along with a hope that our fallen creation can be saved, even if it means another flood to wipe out corrupt humanity.  Just guessing, but that seems very much like what he's given us.
> ~Witz
>
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> Yes, exactly. I meant "sci-fi," with the scare quotes.
>>
>> Do you prefer "sf"?
>>
>> The question is the same. Why create a "cyclical iterations of the same creation that keeps playing out in more or less the same pattern" fictional universe if it's fundamentally the same as ours?
>>
>> On 12/15/2010 4:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF<dstockhoff at verizon.net<mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>     I mean "similar," i.e., identical except for key differences. That
>>>     is, in the usual sci-fi sense that most people understand.
>>>
>>>
>>> H'mmm. Well, I would have said that the usual science-fictional sense of "parallel universes" includes the idea that they are in some sense moving along in time next to ours. The "mirror universe" in Star Trek is a classic example.
>>>
>>> Also, please refrain (note that I am asking politely) from using the term "sci-fi." Some find it very offensive.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
>>>
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