(urth) Father Inire Theory cont.

[David Stockhoff]

Sure, Satan and the Devil are usually the same, and Satan and Lucifer 
were both characters in Milton, with Lucifer becoming Satan (but not the 
Devil). The Serpent is a guise of Satan.

Milton did not invent any of them, obviously---but he certainly invented 
them as modern literary characters. You can be sure Wolfe knows these 
characters inside and out, and would be very careful in connecting them 
to Inire so that the desired associations might show, but none of the 
undesired ones, and not all at once.

For example, Inire is, as I said, a flatterer, and, I think you and I 
agree, Urthbound. These could be clear connections to Milton's Satan in 
the Garden and after he was imprisoned in Hell, IIRC.

But he has no wings and no suggestion of directly fighting the Increate. 
Milton's Satan did spawn all sorts of evil, and raped one of his 
daughters. If this is alluded to in BOTNS, it is very subtle indeed.

On 12/10/2010 8:03 PM, James Wynn wrote:
>
>> David Stockhoff-
>> It's possible that you don't know enough to see the value in 
>> distinctions between them. The character Lucifer is largely derived 
>> from Milton. The Devil is an American folk character who trades in 
>> souls. And so on. 
>
> Well, Milton didn't invent Lucifer. I don't know exactly when Isaiah 
> 14:12 was first linked to Satan/the Devil but it goes back at least to 
> St. Jerome. And the Gospels use Satan and the Devil interchangeably.
>
> u+16b9
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