(urth) Is Severian A Real Person?

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Sun Aug 1 16:49:30 PDT 2010


Stockhoff, take stock.

Be a fucking weasel, see what happens.

It probably won't come from me.

.


> Which passage?
>
> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>> Ah! You do in fact know what a scruple is.
>>
>> I thought that you had gone stupid on me.
>>
>> Why do you scruple to call the narrator Severian in that passage?
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>> I don't answer a silly question just because it's asked in a manner
>>> that
>>> is relatively civil, compared to most of that person's questions.
>>>
>>> Call it a scruple.
>>>
>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> You don't know what a scruple is.
>>>>
>>>> Else you would have answered my more or less civil question.
>>>>
>>>> What character in the Book of the New Sun do you identify with and
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I could lend you some scruples, but you'd waste them.
>>>>>
>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Because I enjoy fucking with weasels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your forfeit to be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't mention Severian at all or even TBotNS, so I can't scruple
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do one or the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you scruple to read people's posts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is a scruple, Stockhoff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator
>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these
>>>>>>>>>> mundane
>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did no such thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still, you scruple to call the narrator Severian.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these
>>>>>>>>>>> mundane
>>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lee Berman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brunians- The only difference between Severian and you and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different Author
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I presume the Author of you and I is to be considered of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> intelligence
>>>>>>>>>>>> too vast,
>>>>>>>>>>>> penetrating, universal, inhuman and mysterious to ever be
>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehended
>>>>>>>>>>>> by us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How true is that of the intelligence of the author of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Severian?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gurloes is a tragic and interesting figure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is father to Severian in a way that Palaemon is not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. There are places in Wolfe's work where I am sure he
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> referring to his
>>>>>>>>>>>> own wife and children in addition to his fictional characters.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>> where he
>>>>>>>>>>>> describes Master Gurloes as being tragic, a complex man trying
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple,
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone who eats too much and not often enough, seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> places.
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