(urth) Future Echoes: Hut in the Jungle +

Son of Witz sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
Fri Mar 20 10:15:00 PDT 2009


hey, speaking of other details that illustrate this idea,
anyone seen a double edged sword lately?
Cuts both ways.  :D

~witz



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jordon Flato [mailto:jordonflato at gmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 09:58 AM
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>Subject: Re: (urth) Future Echoes: Hut in the Jungle +
>
>And, if the goblet of water that turns to wine in the Inn in Saltus USED to
>have wine in it before it held water, that would explain that 'miracle'
>also...a reversal of time.  This 'miracle' has always plagued me as being
>qualitatively different than the rest.
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:54 AM, John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dorcas thinks that the Claw works by reversing time.  I've always thought
>> that that was wrong-headed--that it just works because it's divine
>> power--magic.
>>
>> Now that I read this passage, however, I'm starting to come around to
>> Dorcas's view.  My knowledge of physics is pretty minimal, but I have this
>> vague idea that time slows down as one speeds up and would actually go
>> backwards if one could exceed the speed of light, which of course is
>> impossible.  But if it *weren't *impossible, it would still be *impractical
>> *because of the tremendous amount of energy it would take...unless one had
>> the ability to channel some kind of divine energy, flowing from a higher
>> plane of existence, much like Severian does.  Maybe that's *exactly *how
>> the Claw works, and this thing about the flower leaping into being is a hint
>> of that.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Adam Thornton [mailto:adam at io.com]
>>> >Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 09:44 AM
>>> >To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
>>>   >Subject: Re: (urth) Future Echoes:  Hut in the Jungle +
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Son of Witz wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Beside me, Dorcas plucked a water hyacinth and put it in her hair.
>>> >> Except for the vague spot of white on the bank some distance ahead,
>>> >> it was the first flower I had seen in the Garden of Endless Sleep; I
>>> >> looked for others, but saw none. Is it possible the flower came into
>>> >> being only because Dorcas reached for it? In daylight moments, I
>>> >> know as well as the next that such things are impossible;"
>>> >
>>> >So, it's not hyacinths.
>>> >
>>> >Oh.  Hyacinth.
>>> >
>>> >Um.  Anyway, so, it's not hyacinths, but as long as we're doing
>>> >temporally-reversed scenes, how about when the monster drowns the
>>> >little girl who's tossing the flower petals into the pool in the
>>> >Karloff _Frankenstein_?  Here we have the time reversal where Dorcas
>>> >is produced from the pool, and then the flower petals.
>>> >
>>> >I'm probably just seeing spectres.
>>> >
>>> >Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to see the wispy edges of a ghost there...
>>>
>>> ~witz
>>>
>>>
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