(urth) Seawrack/ mother plot / + three whorls

Jordon Flato jordonflato at gmail.com
Wed Mar 18 17:02:55 PDT 2009

There are some possibilities.  Maybe Blue is where Abia's 'race' is from?
I've always assumed Abia came to Urth at some point.  Must have come from
somewhere, no?

And I am against the theory of Ushas as Blue, you know from our
discussions.  However, there are so many resonances between the two worlds
(some of which you point out), that I think we are being directed to the
idea that what happened on Urth/Ushas happened on Blue as well.  Perhaps
there was a "severian" equivelant on Blue.  One of the Neighbors.  And we
have the Abia analogue, just like Urth.  There is more to this, which until
I finish on this read through of SS I don't want to lay out, but I think the
multi-limbed beings and what not are a clue to this.

And I can't get with the idea that Horn is a Neighbor.  Doesn't make a lick
of sense to me, thematically or contextually.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:

> Somewhere I read a suggestion about Seawrack and the Mother having a hidden
> scheme in Short Sun.  What is it?  Where is it?
> I REALLY don't get final bit about The Mother and the brides of Abia unless
> Urth is Blue.  I appreciate all the arguments against that idea, and i'm not
> convinced, but this aquatic mother, and buried walls under the sea just
> really seem to scream out that Urth or Ushas is Blue.  Or are we to suppose
> that a Sea Mother Goddess is inherent on watery worlds?    It just seems so
> much more tidy if there are only 3 whorls and not 5. And Horn/Silk keeps
> saying "I've drawn the three whorls again"  Why would there be two
> additional whorls.
> Jordon pointed out to me that if Ushas is Blue, then the projection of Horn
> and Co to the Red Sun Whorl is not in simultaneous timeline to Horn's, which
> is maybe problematic, though maybe not. we've scene time travel, and astral
> projection, why not both at once?
> ~witz
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