(urth) Wolfean theologies
Son of Witz
sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
Wed Feb 4 10:31:47 PST 2009
Having a sort of mystic bent to my understandings of this stuff, think the Filioque is a huge change. It takes the basic form of the Trinity and turns it into a flat, hierarchical line. Triangles are one of the most fundamental forms in creation, and I think it's no accident that the Trinity is a triangle. It's foundational. Flatten that out and you've done some serious root level damage to the very structure of the message. It's no wonder all of the screwed up situations that follow that change. Inquisition,Crusades, Celibate Clergy, PriestRapists, Vatican II, and now the Oecumenical stuff...
and, I don't know about all of them, but some of the Orthodox I know DEFINITELY consider Catholicism a heresy. I find it a little shrill, but that's just me. I should say for myself I don't consider them heretics. I'm in no position to judge that, my own ideas probably being heretical.
~Witz
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Weber [mailto:palaeologos at gmail.com]
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>On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>
>> This is all very interesting.
>> I don't understand how there can be only one interpretation of Christ,
>> especially argued by Catholics, who are considered Heretics by the oldest,
>> most traditional and unchanged Christian Church, The Eastern Orthodox.
>> And even then, Christ's Divinity is EXEGESIS. It's in the Creed, and it's
>> the Catholics that changed the creed and caused the Great Schism.
>>
>
>Heterodox the RCC may be in Orthodox eyes, but not in its christology. In
>that, at least, the Catholics & Orthodoxen are in full agreement. And
>inserting "filioque" into the Creed was just the straw that broke the
>camel's back; there had been a long series of misunderstandings and strains
>on fellowship before then, on both sides.
>
>
>--
>Matt +
>
>Let early education be a sort of amusement; you will then be better able to
>find out the natural bent.
>Plato (c. 428-348 B.C.), The Republic, bk. VII, 537
>
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