(urth) Wolfean theologies

Matt Teel adeodatus43 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 4 18:08:54 PST 2009

Wow ... I don't comment much on this list, but ... damn.  Do you suppose you could lay off the Catholics for a while?  "Priest Rapists" are a result of the Filioque clause?  Come on.  I didn't subscribe to this list to read crap like this.  The conversation was interesting until you felt the need to vomit on the page and share it with the rest of us.
Matt Teel

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:

From: Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfean theologies
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:31 PM

Having a sort of mystic bent to my understandings of this stuff, think the
Filioque is a huge change.  It takes the basic form of the Trinity and turns it
into a flat, hierarchical line.  Triangles are one of the most fundamental forms
in creation, and I think it's no accident that the Trinity is a triangle.
It's foundational.  Flatten that out and you've done some serious root
level damage to the very structure of the message.  It's no wonder all of
the screwed up situations that follow that change. Inquisition,Crusades,
Celibate Clergy, PriestRapists, Vatican II, and now the Oecumenical stuff....

and, I don't know about all of them, but some of the Orthodox I know
DEFINITELY consider Catholicism a heresy.  I find it a little shrill, but
that's just me.  I should say for myself I don't consider them heretics.
I'm in no position to judge that, my own ideas probably being heretical.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Weber [mailto:palaeologos at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 09:44 AM
>To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfean theologies
>On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Son of Witz
<sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>> This is all very interesting.
>> I don't understand how there can be only one interpretation of
>> especially argued by Catholics, who are considered Heretics by the
>> most traditional and unchanged Christian Church, The Eastern Orthodox.
>> And even then, Christ's Divinity is EXEGESIS.  It's in the
Creed, and it's
>> the Catholics that changed the creed and caused the Great Schism.
>Heterodox the RCC may be in Orthodox eyes, but not in its christology.  In
>that, at least, the Catholics & Orthodoxen are in full agreement.  And
>inserting "filioque" into the Creed was just the straw that broke
>camel's back; there had been a long series of misunderstandings and
>on fellowship before then, on both sides.
>Matt +
>Let early education be a sort of amusement; you will then be better able to
>find out the natural bent.
>Plato (c. 428-348 B.C.), The Republic, bk. VII, 537

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