(urth) Wolfean theologies

Son of Witz sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
Wed Feb 4 10:37:16 PST 2009


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>From: brunians at brunians.org [mailto:brunians at brunians.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:35 AM
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>They will take communion from each other's priests, in emergency. Neither
>one of them will take communion from your priests.
>> Having a sort of mystic bent to my understandings of this stuff, think the
>> Filioque is a huge change.  It takes the basic form of the Trinity and
>> turns it into a flat, hierarchical line.  Triangles are one of the most
>> fundamental forms in creation, and I think it's no accident that the
>> Trinity is a triangle. It's foundational.  Flatten that out and you've
>> done some serious root level damage to the very structure of the message.
>> It's no wonder all of the screwed up situations that follow that change.
>> Inquisition,Crusades, Celibate Clergy, PriestRapists, Vatican II, and now
>> the Oecumenical stuff...
>> and, I don't know about all of them, but some of the Orthodox I know
>> DEFINITELY consider Catholicism a heresy.  I find it a little shrill, but
>> that's just me.  I should say for myself I don't consider them heretics.
>> I'm in no position to judge that, my own ideas probably being heretical.
>> ~Witz
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Matthew Weber [mailto:palaeologos at gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 09:44 AM
>>>To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
>>>Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfean theologies
>>>On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Son of Witz
>>> <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>>>> This is all very interesting.
>>>> I don't understand how there can be only one interpretation of Christ,
>>>> especially argued by Catholics, who are considered Heretics by the
>>>> oldest,
>>>> most traditional and unchanged Christian Church, The Eastern Orthodox.
>>>> And even then, Christ's Divinity is EXEGESIS.  It's in the Creed, and
>>>> it's
>>>> the Catholics that changed the creed and caused the Great Schism.
>>>Heterodox the RCC may be in Orthodox eyes, but not in its christology.
>>> In
>>>that, at least, the Catholics & Orthodoxen are in full agreement.  And
>>>inserting "filioque" into the Creed was just the straw that broke the
>>>camel's back; there had been a long series of misunderstandings and
>>> strains
>>>on fellowship before then, on both sides.
>>>Matt +
>>>Let early education be a sort of amusement; you will then be better able
>>> to
>>>find out the natural bent.
>>>Plato (c. 428-348 B.C.), The Republic, bk. VII, 537
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