(urth) Wolfean theologies

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Wed Feb 4 10:35:38 PST 2009


They will take communion from each other's priests, in emergency. Neither
one of them will take communion from your priests.


> Having a sort of mystic bent to my understandings of this stuff, think the
> Filioque is a huge change.  It takes the basic form of the Trinity and
> turns it into a flat, hierarchical line.  Triangles are one of the most
> fundamental forms in creation, and I think it's no accident that the
> Trinity is a triangle. It's foundational.  Flatten that out and you've
> done some serious root level damage to the very structure of the message.
> It's no wonder all of the screwed up situations that follow that change.
> Inquisition,Crusades, Celibate Clergy, PriestRapists, Vatican II, and now
> the Oecumenical stuff...
> and, I don't know about all of them, but some of the Orthodox I know
> DEFINITELY consider Catholicism a heresy.  I find it a little shrill, but
> that's just me.  I should say for myself I don't consider them heretics.
> I'm in no position to judge that, my own ideas probably being heretical.
> ~Witz
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Matthew Weber [mailto:palaeologos at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 09:44 AM
>>To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
>>Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfean theologies
>>On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Son of Witz
>> <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>>> This is all very interesting.
>>> I don't understand how there can be only one interpretation of Christ,
>>> especially argued by Catholics, who are considered Heretics by the
>>> oldest,
>>> most traditional and unchanged Christian Church, The Eastern Orthodox.
>>> And even then, Christ's Divinity is EXEGESIS.  It's in the Creed, and
>>> it's
>>> the Catholics that changed the creed and caused the Great Schism.
>>Heterodox the RCC may be in Orthodox eyes, but not in its christology.
>> In
>>that, at least, the Catholics & Orthodoxen are in full agreement.  And
>>inserting "filioque" into the Creed was just the straw that broke the
>>camel's back; there had been a long series of misunderstandings and
>> strains
>>on fellowship before then, on both sides.
>>Matt +
>>Let early education be a sort of amusement; you will then be better able
>> to
>>find out the natural bent.
>>Plato (c. 428-348 B.C.), The Republic, bk. VII, 537
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