(urth) Questions about BNS
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com
Wed Nov 14 19:21:59 PST 2007
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:21 +1100 Eric Ortlund
<eortlund at briercrest.ca> wrote:
>
>1) When Severian enters the shop of Agilus and Agia, Agilus is
>wearing a
>mask that makes him look like a corpse. No detail in Wolfe is
>inconsequential: so why is that there? Foreshadowing of Agilus'
>fate?
Also, Agilus has some kind of permanent mask attachment points on
his neck. Sev can still see them when Agilus removes the mask.
What's with that?
>2) When Severian and Agia are in the Jungle Garden, the apparently
>travel in time and space (the story about Father Inire's mirrors
>apparently prepares the reader for this) to a missionary couple in
>the
>jungle. Can someone please explain to me what on earth the native
>is
>talking about on pg. 131? The woman in the couple reads from
>Deuteronomy 34 - about Moses looking into the promised land but
>not
>being able to enter it - and then the native tells a story about a
>fish
>who apparently is a woman. I'm totally at a loss here; what is
>the
>connection? What is the naked man talking about? How does this
>contribute to the story?
On the fish part: Just after the jungle hut scene (I think) Sev
tells Agia the story of Inire and Thecla's little friend, the one
in which the mirror-fish appears. I'm pretty sure this is the same
fish, and the woman is the "reflection" of Thecla's friend.
>3) What about the vision Dorcas and Severian see when they're
>leaving
>Nessus of the huge palace (pg 181)? What is it of? I vaguely
>remember
>that the conversation which Severian has with the woman who gives
>him
>tea at the fair in Saltus might hint that it is somehow identified
>with
>the tent of the Pelerines. Is that on the right track?
I thought it was pretty clear that this was indeed the Pelerine's
temple rising up like a hot air balloon.
>4) At the end of Shadow of the Torturer, there's a disturbance at
>the
>huge gate of Nessus; we only learn in Severian's dream in the next
>book
>about the five soldiers turning people aside. Severian seems so
>circumspect in describing this that I'm suspicious he knows
>something
>which he isn't telling us. Is this incident in the book
>significant?
>Or is it just that Severian doesn't know why the soldiers are
>there?
Over the years, this has puzzled many. I haven't yet heard an
entirely satisfactory solution & don't have one myself.
>5) One more and I'll stop - when Severian nearly drowns in the
>Gyoll
>near the beginning of Shadow, he sees a woman's face; later,
>during his
>dream while he's sleeping next to Baldanders, the brides of Abia
>hint
>that they came to see him at the Gyoll - so that's who he sees.
>Two
>questions: who is the woman crying that he hears - Thecla? Also,
>when
>his friends pull him out, he says that he saw the dead Malrubius -
>and a
>boatman asks if Malrubius is a woman. I know this is really
>small, but,
>like I said, no detail is insignificant; why would the boatman say
>this?
>Is there anything here?
My guess is that the crying woman was his mother (near-death has
dredged up a very early memory, or something like that). The
boatman knows that water-women come up the river, and he wonders if
"Malrubius" was one of these. (Actually, I can't remember exactly
where we get told that water-women coming up the river is
relatively common - but I believe at the end of CoA there's enough
to make this clear, and SilkHorn says somethign like this in RTTW.)
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