(urth) Cumaean???

Pedro Pereira domus_artemis at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 14 11:07:49 PST 2007


Could not that be the star that Severian brings as the New Sun? He seems to be "in touch" with it in Urth of the New Sun, so its not a big stretch to assume that it has a "mind". On the other hand a Wolfe interview I read makes allusions to the new sun brough by Severian to be a white hole...
 
 
> The star is likely Fomalhaut, or "mouth of the whale" is a bright white> star in the constellation of Pisces. It is roughly 25 light-years away> and the eighteenth brightest star in the night sky. It is thought to be> only about 200-300 million years old, though being about 1.7 times the> mass of the sun, it will age more rapidly. Certainly, it would not be> unreasonable to assume that by Severian's time it too has left the main> sequence.
 
You seem to assume that our Sun as aged naturaly and so is "dying". I don't think thats the reason why the Sun is dying. Severian time can be from 100.000 years to 1 million years in the future, but the Sun at that time will be as "healthy" as it is now. I think the reason behind the "dying Sun" is artificial. Maybe something done by the Hierogrammates or by Tartaros (black hole in the hearth of the Sun?).
 
 
 
 
 
 
> From: heliumhead at charter.net> To: urth at lists.urth.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:57:18 -0600> Subject: Re: (urth) Cumaean???> > > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 09:46 -0600, Eric Ortlund wrote:> > 3) When Merryn is telling Severian that all time exists, the Cumaean> > tells them that, although Apu Punchau (=New Sun, right?) lived ages> > before her, there is a "mind" which existed in his time and which still> > exists . . . on the Red Star called the Fish's Mouth. What the heck is> > going on here? Which star is this, and which mind? Is this referring> > to Yesod?> > The star is likely Fomalhaut, or "mouth of the whale" is a bright white> star in the constellation of Pisces. It is roughly 25 light-years away> and the eighteenth brightest star in the night sky. It is thought to be> only about 200-300 million years old, though being about 1.7 times the> mass of the sun, it will age more rapidly. Certainly, it would not be> unreasonable to assume that by Severian's time it too has left the main> sequence.> > As to the mind, I really couldn't say, though it could merely be a> long lived alien whom the Cumaaean has knowledge of or has encountered> in the past.> > > I guess I essentially get this episode: Hildegrin (and Vodualus through> > him) are trying to stop the return of the New Sun; Hildegrin struggles> > here with Apu Punchau = the man Severian sees etched into the wall of> > the grave house he played in as a boy = himself.> > I think that is one way to view the episode. I think that it is likely> that what Hildegrin had in mind specifically was to return to Vodulus> with a truly ancient ( though fresh) body.> > > Eric> > Sorry if my answers are a bit pedantic and uninspired.> > Todd> > _______________________________________________> Urth Mailing List> To post, write urth at urth.net> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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